Besides Canelo who could GGG actually fight that are legitimate opponents?

[The Big Dunn]

You're playing Monday morning quarterback.

Why did Floyd turn down more money to fight Harris instead of Brusseles, the WBA title, and more money to fight Gatti? It's a simple question no ***** has ever dared to answer. Their typical response is to bring up the Maussa fight, but that's all hind sight, b/c Floyd wasn't turning down Harris after Maussa. And to sit and downgrade Harris is kinda pointless b/c who the hell was Brusseles?


Imdazed is the one who went back to 2004, trying to act smart saying Golovkin takes easy mandatory fights and that Floyd could've kept fighting guys like Brusseles. Well Brusseles wasn't a mandatory, he was chosen for an eliminator and Floyd could've chose to make more money, pick up another title to get that same shot at Gatti, and didn't. So yeah, Imdazed looks either dumb or disingenuous to bring up that particular comparison.

I think I can answer.

I and my cousin happened to meet Floyd in Vegas during the bhop/odh fight week. we talked a bit and he said the plan was for him to fight Gatti down the road. I happened to sit next to Gatti on the plane ride home. Struck up a conversation and he mentioned he was eventually going to fight Floyd.

They fought in June 2005, I met them both in September 2004. Since they had the fight planned they matched floyd with Brussels because Floyd would look much better against him, which would make the Gatti fight bigger.

Harris had only fought 2x after winning the title in 2002. They were building toward a PPV. How was a fight with him worth more money than fighting Gatti in 2005?

[therealpugilist]

You're playing Monday morning quarterback.

Why did Floyd turn down more money to fight Harris instead of Brusseles, the WBA title, and more money to fight Gatti? It's a simple question no ***** has ever dared to answer. Their typical response is to bring up the Maussa fight, but that's all hind sight, b/c Floyd wasn't turning down Harris after Maussa. And to sit and downgrade Harris is kinda pointless b/c who the hell was Brusseles?


Imdazed is the one who went back to 2004, trying to act smart saying Golovkin takes easy mandatory fights and that Floyd could've kept fighting guys like Brusseles. Well Brusseles wasn't a mandatory, he was chosen for an eliminator and Floyd could've chose to make more money, pick up another title to get that same shot at Gatti, and didn't. So yeah, Imdazed looks either dumb or disingenuous to bring up that particular comparison.

Be honest...what type of fighter or level fighter do you see GGG facing next?


I see another "mandatory"....mismatch on the horizon and people will be defending it while trashing other fighters who have taken more risks.

[therealpugilist]

I think I can answer.

I and my cousin happened to meet Floyd in Vegas during the bhop/odh fight week. we talked a bit and he said the plan was for him to fight Gatti down the road. I happened to sit next to Gatti on the plane ride home. Struck up a conversation and he mentioned he was eventually going to fight Floyd.

They fought in June 2005, I met them both in September 2004. Since they had the fight planned they matched floyd with Brussels because Floyd would look much better against him, which would make the Gatti fight bigger.

Harris had only fought 2x after winning the title in 2002. They were building toward a PPV. How was a fight with him worth more money than fighting Gatti in 2005?

Harris was unknown and inactive....Brusles was active and a stablemate of Cotto's......they looked shook how he battered his boy....Anyone calling for Cotto to fight that Mayweather just wanted to see Cotto get beat

Cotto vs Mayweather at 140 around 2005 was a mismatch and imo it happened at a better time in 2012

[The Big Dunn]

Harris was unknown and inactive....Brusles was active and a stablemate of Cotto's......they looked shook how he battered his boy....Anyone calling for Cotto to fight that Mayweather just wanted to see Cotto get beat

Cotto vs Mayweather at 140 around 2005 was a mismatch and imo it happened at a better time in 2012

Respectfully, I think it was more that Brussels was PR and the fight was in Miami to keep Floyd on the East Coast.

Remember prior to Gatti, Floyd hopped around because he wasn't a seat filler.

[therealpugilist]

Respectfully, I think it was more that Brussels was PR and the fight was in Miami to keep Floyd on the East Coast.

Remember prior to Gatti, Floyd hopped around because he wasn't a seat filler.

Yea bruseles was more a showcase fight imo

This was around the time, he was changing from smiling, pretty humble pretty boy floyd, into the more trash talking, money moniker.

You could tell around this time floyd was fed up not getting the fights he wanted or the $$$

leaving top rank was the best decision he ever made....he ended up fighting everyone he wanted when they left TR or he left....Oscar, Cotto, Mosley and Pac

[Eastcoast]

I think I can answer.

I and my cousin happened to meet Floyd in Vegas during the bhop/odh fight week. we talked a bit and he said the plan was for him to fight Gatti down the road. I happened to sit next to Gatti on the plane ride home. Struck up a conversation and he mentioned he was eventually going to fight Floyd.

They fought in June 2005, I met them both in September 2004. Since they had the fight planned they matched floyd with Brussels because Floyd would look much better against him, which would make the Gatti fight bigger.

Harris had only fought 2x after winning the title in 2002. They were building toward a PPV. How was a fight with him worth more money than fighting Gatti in 2005?

Main Events promoted both Gatti & Harris. They wanted to make a Mayweather/Harris fight, so offered Floyd a deal that if he fought Harris first, they'd pay him more to fight Gatti afterwards than he'd get from the purse split as Gatti's mandatory.

[IMDAZED]

Yea bruseles was more a showcase fight imo

This was around the time, he was changing from smiling, pretty humble pretty boy floyd, into the more trash talking, money moniker.

You could tell around this time floyd was fed up not getting the fights he wanted or the $$$

leaving top rank was the best decision he ever made....he ended up fighting everyone he wanted when they left TR or he left....Oscar, Cotto, Mosley and Pac

The bottom line is what eastcoast drew from that parallel shows how absurd GGG fans have become. The guy hasn't beaten a top/elite opponent yet. When he does, he can start being selective in search of a big money fight.

[therealpugilist]

The bottom line is what eastcoast drew from that parallel shows how absurd GGG fans have become. The guy hasn't beaten a top/elite opponent yet. When he does, he can start being selective in search of a big money fight.

^^^^^yup...case closed.....by fight 35 mayweather was lineal champion at 130, 135 with a total of 11 defenses......4 defenses vs future champs while defending at 130...3rd title at 140 with the wbc


but these same people called mayweather a coward...his resume at 35-0 makes GGG look like a decent contender...not a top 3 p4p type.

[Eastcoast]

Be honest...what type of fighter or level fighter do you see GGG facing next?


I see another "mandatory"....mismatch on the horizon and people will be defending it while trashing other fighters who have taken more risks.

Well Eubank is supposed to be next, and I'd argue Eubank is the better fight than Alvarez, Jacobs, or Saunders. After Eubank, Jacobs will be addressed. Both Golovkin and Jacobs will be done with their fights by mid September and GB/K2 have made it clear Canelo's off the table for the rest of 2016. So it's step up or vacate time for Jacobs.

After that, it looks like Derevyanchenko is on a collision course for Golovkin. He has a fight with Soliman for the IBF #2 spot, after which he'll have to fight Tureano Johnson in a final eliminator. Derevyanchenko looks like he could be a high quality opponent to Golovkin, given his amateur background and how he handles Soliman & Johnson. There's still a chance Saunders fights Golovkin within the immediate future, especially if the Golovkin/Eubank fight is a big financial success in the UK.

Then there's two SMW options they're looking at: Rameriz and the winner of DeGale/Jack. Again, if the Golovkin/Eubank fight is a big success in the UK, there'll be a push for a Golovkin/DeGale fight there. DeGale doesn't want to stay at SMW for much longer so they won't take too long to decide.

[IMDAZED]

^^^^^yup...case closed.....by fight 35 mayweather was lineal champion at 130, 135 with a total of 11 defenses......4 defenses vs future champs while defending at 130...3rd title at 140 with the wbc


but these same people called mayweather a coward...his resume at 35-0 makes GGG look like a decent contender...not a top 3 p4p type.

In the end, it's up to GGG. And whether or not fans think it's ok for him to act as a diva without a decent win on his dossier, nor the star power to call shots.