Besides Canelo who could GGG actually fight that are legitimate opponents?

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Lara makes the most sense as he gave Canelo an extremely tough bout and is a well-respected boxer. Certainly better than a Eubank but it's about money so Eubank it is.

I'd love to see GGG move up and knock off some of these 168lb. contenders. Maybe target a DeGale. That would be a really nice matchup.

[deathofaclown]

Legitimate opponents...at 160, someone like Saunders for example is a legitimate opponent for anybody of course. But would Golovkin get great credit for winning?? of course not.

Even if he went to 168 and beat Ramirez, they would say he only ever beat a shot Abraham. Or if he beat DeGale they would say DeGale hasn't looked that good anyway etc. etc. Or if Lara come up, they'd say Lara lost to Canelo or it was close.

Truthfully, the only way he will get great credit is if he went up to 175 and beat someone like Ward or Kovalev. That's just how it is, when you're put on such a high pedestal, it's very difficult to please people. Like Floyd never got any credit for his wins, which would be great wins for any other fighter. I'm not saying he's on the level of Floyd of course, but he's at the stage where people want to discredit anything he does until he fights an almost unrealistic fight.

There's lots of legit opponents around him, but nobody that he will get big credit for beating because people always want to discredit guys held in high regard. There will always be an excuse as to why he won.

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Legitimate opponents...at 160, someone like Saunders for example is a legitimate opponent for anybody of course. But would Golovkin get great credit for winning?? of course not.

Even if he went to 168 and beat Ramirez, they would say he only ever beat a shot Abraham. Or if he beat DeGale they would say DeGale hasn't looked that good anyway etc. etc. Or if Lara come up, they'd say Lara lost to Canelo or it was close.

Truthfully, the only way he will get great credit is if he went up to 175 and beat someone like Ward or Kovalev. That's just how it is, when you're put on such a high pedestal, it's very difficult to please people. Like Floyd never got any credit for his wins, which would be great wins for any other fighter. I'm not saying he's on the level of Floyd of course, but he's at the stage where people want to discredit anything he does until he fights an almost unrealistic fight.

There's lots of legit opponents around him, but nobody that he will get big credit for beating because people always want to discredit guys held in high regard. There will always be an excuse as to why he won.

True. He should probably stick to the Eubank's and Wade's of the world. I mean, what's the point of stepping up if you'll be discredited?

Not saying that's your take at all but there are many GGG fans with that ****** outlook. Floyd Mayweather was favored against anyone too. He should just kept fighting Bruseles type contenders because what would have been the point? He was gonna get discredited regardless.

[deathofaclown]

True. He should probably stick to the Eubank's and Wade's of the world. I mean, what's the point of stepping up if you'll be discredited?

Not saying that's your take at all but there are many GGG fans with that ****** outlook. Floyd Mayweather was favored against anyone too. He should just kept fighting Bruseles type contenders because what would have been the point? He was gonna get discredited regardless.

Well of course he should aim to fight the best around him, those with any sense will know they're good wins. But those that want to discredit him will find a way, as they did with Floyd. That's my point really.

The same way those that say Floyd should come back and fight the young guys like Thurman and Brook would be the first to call them green fighters who never fought many good opponents when Floyd beats them.

Those that say Golovkin wouldn't fight Lara will be the first to say "Lara was getting dropped by a slow Angulo, he's overrated anyway".

Fickle people, that's most boxing fans for you.

[Eastcoast]

True. He should probably stick to the Eubank's and Wade's of the world. I mean, what's the point of stepping up if you'll be discredited?

Not saying that's your take at all but there are many GGG fans with that ****** outlook. Floyd Mayweather was favored against anyone too. He should just kept fighting Bruseles type contenders because what would have been the point? He was gonna get discredited regardless.

Floyd chose to fight Brusseles over Vivian Harris, to the point where he took less money for Brusseles.

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Well of course he should aim to fight the best around him, those with any sense will know they're good wins. But those that want to discredit him will find a way, as they did with Floyd. That's my point really.

The same way those that say Floyd should come back and fight the young guys like Thurman and Brook would be the first to call them green fighters who never fought many good opponents when Floyd beats them.

Those that say Golovkin wouldn't fight Lara will be the first to say "Lara was getting dropped by a slow Angulo, he's overrated anyway".

Fickle people, that's most boxing fans for you.

Yeah but who cares about those fans? I expect him to fold up Lara but it would be his best win IMO.

The problem isn't whether or not he'll be discredited, the problem is that his team was selling woof tickets and got their card pulled. First it was about legacy and unification but now it's clear he wants the big money fight. Not there's anything wrong with that but like I said, when you're the decided B-side, you have to make sacrifices. And if you refuse, beating up on the Dominic Wade's of the world tells me you're just full of it. I appreciate threads like this because people can see that it isn't Canelo or bust and, gasp, GGG might even wanna consider moving up. If he can target a Jacobs, surely he can look at a DeGale or even a Badou Jack. I'd love to see him get at those guys. But it won't happen because **insert business reason here for the people's champ**

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Floyd chose to fight Brusseles over Vivian Harris, to the point where he took less money for Brusseles.

Ok that's nice. Shame on that three-division champ.

[darren01]

Eubank is a better fighter now than bjs.

[deathofaclown]

Eubank is a better fighter now than bjs.

Is he? Financially it is.

Saunders beat Eubank and his currently a world champion.

It's alright saying "Eubank would beat him now"...well who knows? That is pure speculation. Eubank was offered good money for a rematch and they turned it down. They're about the same age and Saunders will be improving and getting better too and has the experience of a world title fight which he won. He claims he switched off in the first fight because the first 6 rounds were so easy he got complacent and if they fought again he would beat him easier. Whether that's true or not, i don't know.

I've never seen anything to suggest Eubank is a better opponent than Saunders. Beating the likes of Blackwell and Doran doesn't prove much. I'll take Saunders win over Andy Lee any day.

I'm a Eubank fan but they make some odd choices. They were mandatory for Jacobs but went in another direction, a backwards one. They were offered a Saunders rematch for a world title, and turned it down and fought for a British title. So they can talk about being world level but when the opportunities presented themselves, they never took the opportunity to prove it.

I'd say Saunders is a better opponent. But in terms of business and probably a more exciting style and build up, it would be Eubank for sure.

Don't get me wrong, i'd much prefer to see GGG v Eubank for entertainment.

[therealpugilist]

Floyd chose to fight Brusseles over Vivian Harris, to the point where he took less money for Brusseles.

would have been nice if harris kept winning......Hatton kept winning, he got the fight

Harris is another name thrown out their like he was some beast but he couldnt maintain momentum to create demand for a fight....same thing happen to margo losing to a prospect in williams(no wins over top ten ww at the time) and williams losing to quintana( he moved up in 2008)

Williams didnt do much at 147 and margo got his azz whooped by Santos, Williams, Mosley, Pacquaio and Cotto.

Fights could have been made if they didnt take loses when they did.