Besides Canelo who could GGG actually fight that are legitimate opponents?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    You're the one who brought up Floyd/Brusseles like you're trying to prove a point.
    Maybe you should've tried reading it in context. You wouldn't have jumped out that window with that caping.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Eastcoast
      Oooh, already mad enough for the name calling... Don't bring up something like Mayweather/Brusseles and hope nobody knows the context behind it.
      Lol. Yes, I was on a boxing board hoping no one realized what I was saying. I know someone who didn't.

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        #33
        Originally posted by j0zef
        Sure, except for one thing. One half of you idiots keep parroting the same "Golvokin's best win is worse than Paul Smith" bull**** in order to discredit him. If he jumped up to 175 tomorrow and narrowly lost to Ward or Kovalev, the same one half of you would be yelling "see, I told you Golovkin is an overrated bum".

        So yeah, I'm gonna sit back and enjoy watching Golovkin try to clean house and establish a legacy in the next few years, all the while watching realpugilist make a new "golovkin dont get credit for fights not made" every other week, and the the whining brigade (shadow/abouttime/rest of red K idiots) saying 'ward doe lara doe' 40 times a day.
        If. Lol. Now it's if he jumped to 175. Impressive.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Eastcoast
          If you just started watching boxing a few years ago, I can understand your ignorance.
          Oh, I've been watching boxing long enough to laugh at the thought of Vivian Harris.

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            #35
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            If. Lol. Now it's if he jumped to 175. Impressive.
            It's weird. These fanboys would rather he wasn't great. I've never seen anything like it.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Eastcoast
              Yeah it would've been nice if Harris kept winning, but that's not the point.

              Floyd wanted a title fight with Arturo Gatti. Main Events promoted both Gatti & Harris, and offered Floyd a fight with Harris with a guaranteed shot at Gatti should he win. In addition, ME would've paid Floyd more to fight Gatti should he beat Harris rather than go the eliminator route with Brusseles, and the Harris fight was worth more money than the Brusseles fight as well.

              Floyd chose lesser money to fight Brusseles in an eliminator rather than to fight a hyped up title holder who was looking like a monster at the time, that would've guaranteed him the same title shot as the easier eliminator.
              Arturo Gatti was a star
              He had a legitimate title, whereas didnt Harris have a WBA regular title?

              He looked like a monster vs who? Hurtado...decent fighter, nothing to write home about.

              are you insinuating he ducked him?

              In the end, he still fought Gatti who was the star, brought more fans, and it was his first ppv

              Either way he got the title shot, and kicked Gatti's AZZ

              Harris was no threat to begin with....lost to carlos friggin maussa the same summer he beat Gatti and then went on a losing streak

              he was a decent fighter but lets be real. he would even make floyd's top 10-12 career wins

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                #37
                Originally posted by b00g13man
                Vivian freaking Harris?
                yea...they went back to 2004 with that one.

                Vivian harris was a level above espn level fighter and a level below HBO ppv type opponent


                I remember the videos back in the day. With vivian being a sucker for the straight right and being chinny....he stood no chance vs mayweather at 140, who was stopping and hurting guys

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  Arturo Gatti was a star
                  He had a legitimate title, whereas didnt Harris have a WBA regular title?

                  He looked like a monster vs who? Hurtado...decent fighter, nothing to write home about.

                  are you insinuating he ducked him?

                  In the end, he still fought Gatti who was the star, brought more fans, and it was his first ppv

                  Either way he got the title shot, and kicked Gatti's AZZ

                  Harris was no threat to begin with....lost to carlos friggin maussa the same summer he beat Gatti and then went on a losing streak

                  he was a decent fighter but lets be real. he would even make floyd's top 10-12 career wins
                  You're playing Monday morning quarterback.

                  Why did Floyd turn down more money to fight Harris instead of Brusseles, the WBA title, and more money to fight Gatti? It's a simple question no ***** has ever dared to answer. Their typical response is to bring up the Maussa fight, but that's all hind sight, b/c Floyd wasn't turning down Harris after Maussa. And to sit and downgrade Harris is kinda pointless b/c who the hell was Brusseles?


                  Imdazed is the one who went back to 2004, trying to act smart saying Golovkin takes easy mandatory fights and that Floyd could've kept fighting guys like Brusseles. Well Brusseles wasn't a mandatory, he was chosen for an eliminator and Floyd could've chose to make more money, pick up another title to get that same shot at Gatti, and didn't. So yeah, Imdazed looks either dumb or disingenuous to bring up that particular comparison.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    You're playing Monday morning quarterback.

                    Why did Floyd turn down more money to fight Harris instead of Brusseles, the WBA title, and more money to fight Gatti? It's a simple question no ***** has ever dared to answer. Their typical response is to bring up the Maussa fight, but that's all hind sight, b/c Floyd wasn't turning down Harris after Maussa. And to sit and downgrade Harris is kinda pointless b/c who the hell was Brusseles?


                    Imdazed is the one who went back to 2004, trying to act smart saying Golovkin takes easy mandatory fights and that Floyd could've kept fighting guys like Brusseles. Well Brusseles wasn't a mandatory, he was chosen for an eliminator and Floyd could've chose to make more money, pick up another title to get that same shot at Gatti, and didn't. So yeah, Imdazed looks either dumb or disingenuous to bring up that particular comparison.
                    Well yes, to a dumb person it would seem so. However, my argument was that Mayweather didn't continue taking on those type of opponents. Further, Mayweather was already a proven, three-division champion. So yes, you missed the point. Maybe you shouldn't ride for GGG so hard. It's clouding your judgement.

                    But let's get to Harris since that's what you want to make this about (Lord knows, asking GGG to fight other opponents is not a conversation people like you wanna have). You're really pulling stuff out of your ass. In Harris' world, Floyd was ducking him. In Mayweather's world, Harris was an unproven nobody trying to come up. But please, continue.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Eastcoast
                      You're playing Monday morning quarterback.

                      Why did Floyd turn down more money to fight Harris instead of Brusseles, the WBA title, and more money to fight Gatti? It's a simple question no ***** has ever dared to answer. Their typical response is to bring up the Maussa fight, but that's all hind sight, b/c Floyd wasn't turning down Harris after Maussa. And to sit and downgrade Harris is kinda pointless b/c who the hell was Brusseles?


                      Imdazed is the one who went back to 2004, trying to act smart saying Golovkin takes easy mandatory fights and that Floyd could've kept fighting guys like Brusseles. Well Brusseles wasn't a mandatory, he was chosen for an eliminator and Floyd could've chose to make more money, pick up another title to get that same shot at Gatti, and didn't. So yeah, Imdazed looks either dumb or disingenuous to bring up that particular comparison.
                      so basically you are insinuating Mayweather ducked him....an unknown fighter with a trinket?

                      Mayweather was trying to become a star...he really wanted Cotto,Hatton, Tyszu or Gatti...Cotto was green, Tyszu was old decided to fight Hatton brought more $$$ and less risk(still lost ),,,,all was left at 140 was Gatti



                      only hard core fans even knew who harris was and he didn't stay near the top of 140 very long...he is basically a footnote


                      everyone turns down fights, dont mean their ducking or being ducked.....fighting Harris wouldnt have enhanced his resume or his $$$

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