Can GGG ever surpass Floyd Mayweather on an ATG list?

[therealpugilist]

you literally can't muster any objectivity about golovkin. blame the guys who are ducking him, not "k2 not stepping on the gas." k2 is stepping on the gas, you clown. how is trying to get the biggest fight in boxing, and the MW champion of the world, not stepping on the gas? they wouldn't have stepped on the gas for cotto? martinez? chavez? quillin? jacobs? ndam? sturm?

you just want golovkin to move up in weight, and will give him to credit until he does. then you'll discredit the guys at 168. you want him to lose, not to get the fights that make the most sense for him and for boxing.

if golovkin is moved properly he can be a candidate for ward - kovalev in a megafight in time. making that a megafight requires a victory over canelo alvarez. golovkin will not have the kind of drawing power without it. you're also talking about about leaving the bigger fight behind to chase the smaller one. again, this makes no sense, unless you're simply matching golovkin as poorly as you can in an attempt to make him lose. which you are. because you're a fanboy / "a hater."


you're a hater.
you're a golovkin hater.

that's what you are. the word that has come into use over the last couple of decades is personified by what you do. it's all you do. what you do is toxic to the objective discussions taking place on this forum.


you've got to be completely insane to blame k2 for "not stepping on the gas" when they're trying as hard as they can to get the biggest fight in boxing. that's insane. you're a hater, and insane.

be serious


How the **** can he ever be considered an ATG or hall of famers when its more excuses for his opponents than any of them being the kind that lights a fire under the fans' azz? He hasnt taken any chances....hell ray robinson started ta lightweight and fought up to 175 and challenged Joey Maxim for the 175 title.....Floyd fought across 5 divisons.....Hagler stayed in one division but actually won his titles in the ring....Monzon did as well


deal with the truth.,..until he and his team takes risks, he is gonna be in the same place he has been the past 3 years......great talent, crap resume, fans full of excuses why it sucks...

[Mike_R]

If he moves up and easily KO's both Ward and Kovalev... then the conversation can start, and even still he might need to do more.

[Ray Corso]

If he KO's Ward & Koval that would surpass Floyd'''''
that would be like Floyd moving up to Middle and KOing GGG!
When Floyd moved to welter he fought out of prime welters and lightweights moving up for him. Don't act like Floyd's movement up was some great task hell he had all his opponents hand picked at 135 and 140 pounders!

What great fighter did he knock out when moving up?

[Dean_Razorback]

voted yes just for the lulz

[Dodger07]

He would have to clean out mw and beat guys like canelo, saunders, jacobs etc. but it'll be tough to get them to even fight him.

go to 168 beat ramirez and the degale-jack winner, maybe someone like groves too

go to 175 and beat the ward-kovalev winner, stevenson, and maybe someone like beterbiev.

it would be extremely difficult for him to surpass floyd

[bluzi]

If he moves up and easily KO's both Ward and Kovalev... then the conversation can start, and even still he might need to do more.

This is actually such a big feat i cant even fathom it , Ward and Kov are 2 primed elite fighters best in thier respecitve weight class (both 175 which is 2 WC above him) , thats unheard off , he wont fight (or win vs Kovalev) them so we wont need to consider it

[boliodogs]

It would depend entirely on who's list you are talking about. If it's a Mayweather fan's list the answer is no. If it's a GGG fan's list the answer is yes. If it's the list of a neutral fan I think he could surpass him if he continues to knock out everybody and the best middleweights share a ring with him. He is undefeated with many successful title defenses. Knock outs are more impressive than unanimous decisions. He loses far fewer rounds per fight than even Mayweather. He has never been in a fight that was remotely close. He seldom loses a single round and in no fight did he ever lose more than two rounds. He has completely dominated every opponent.He never had a fight like Mayweather's fights with Oscar and Castillo where many thought Mayweather lost. Mayweather has fought better fighters because everybody is happy to fight Mayweather for the big money and Mayweather won't likely knock them out. GGG wants to fight the best middleweights in the world but many of them just flat out won't fight him.

[boliodogs]

New England is a great poster. He is neutral, fair, and knows boxing. Therealpugilist is a terrible poster. He is bias, prejudice and so full of hate it's coming out his ears. He doesn't know **** about boxing.

[TheUnbiased]

Little floyd should be rated with the usain bolts of the world he made every fight he was in boring after leaving 130,135 plus hes a major PED addict. GGG is the second coming of roy jones jr/julio cesar chavez sr. He is not done yet and still has alot to give ti better the sport and try to erase the pssy era out of the mind of casuals.

[HanzGruber]

If he KO's Ward & Koval that would surpass Floyd'''''
that would be like Floyd moving up to Middle and KOing GGG!
When Floyd moved to welter he fought out of prime welters and lightweights moving up for him. Don't act like Floyd's movement up was some great task hell he had all his opponents hand picked at 135 and 140 pounders!

What great fighter did he knock out when moving up?

tyson must be your pfp number 1 if knocks are all that matter lol.. what a joke