Who is better: Paul Smith/Barrera or David Lemieux/Murray/Macklin/Geale

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  • Jewish-Reptile
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    #31
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    why go through all that crap and just look at their entire body of work...you are comparing 2 fighters to 4 fighters....that makes no sense

    also ward has only fought 3-4 times since 2012

    what point are you trying to prove? that he didnt fight often?


    the real question is who has the better resume PERIOD.....can you answer that? stop posting
    Ward and conclusively.

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    • Jewish-Reptile
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      #32
      This thread is pathetic. You've got GGG's best wins over journey men and guys knocked out when they've stepped up to world level and Ward's last two opponents since he was out with promotional issues for two years lol.

      How about comparing Geale and Lemiuex to wins over Kessler and Froch, try that for a thread if you've the stones, or continue to hide in this thread.

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      • Derranged
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        #33
        Oh for fucks sake can this ****** Ward-Golovkin war end already?

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        • Cutthroat
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          #34
          Connect %'s for power punches landed vs Lemieux
          N'dam-40%
          Tapia-34%
          Rosado-43%
          Golovkin 58%

          We've seen Rubio walk through his punches and stop him, I've also seen Alcine, blown up jmw, walk through his punches and rock him about 3x throughout the fight.

          Now, imagine if Lemieux is fighting Smith's opponents, actual SMW's. Groves, Degale, Abraham, Ward etc. if guys like Rosado and N'dam are landing 40% of their power punches, imagine what these larger, more durable, significantly better fighters would do to him. Lemieux is not a 1 punch KO artist, he relies on volume, he's easily hit, and has been stopped/rocked by lesser fighters.

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          • New England
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            #35
            Originally posted by therealpugilist
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            agenda obvious

            no matter how you slice it GGG's resume doesn't measure up.



            how does that make any sense?

            if you "slice" the last 2 years of both fighter's careers, and look at them objectivey, golovkin has a much better resume. murray and lemiuex are a much better set of names than unproven sullivan barrera, and overweight and retired paul smith.

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            • Kagami Taiga
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              #36
              Originally posted by New England
              how does that make any sense?

              if you "slice" the last 2 years of both fighter's careers, and look at them objectivey, golovkin has a much better resume. murray and lemiuex are a much better set of names than unproven sullivan barrera, and overweight and retired paul smith.
              OK and since when did we measure fighters resumes in 2 year intervals? It literally means nothing unless you are tying to make it. Golovkin was greater than Ward for two years. Ok.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
                OK and since when did we measure fighters resumes in 2 year intervals? It literally means nothing unless you are tying to make it. Golovkin was greater than Ward for two years. Ok.



                p4p lists [who is better right tnow]

                and resumes [who has accomplished more over the course of his career]

                are different things completely. for that reason golovkin is the better p4p ranked fighter, while ward's got the better resume.


                james toney is still trying to fight. shane mosley, too. both have a better resume than both guys. are they better ranked p4p fighters right now than gennady golovkin?

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                • New England
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Derranged
                  Oh for fucks sake can this ****** Ward-Golovkin war end already?


                  people come here to **********, bruh.


                  "i identify with this fighter, therefor i felate him, and felate myself."



                  just a bunch of tribal cavemen jerking off in around a fire, bruh. happy 4th. don't nail and birds i wouldn't nail!

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                  • Kagami Taiga
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by New England
                    p4p lists [who is better right tnow]

                    and resumes [who has accomplished more over the course of his career]

                    are different things completely. for that reason golovkin is the better p4p ranked fighter, while ward's got the better resume.


                    james toney is still trying to fight. shane mosley, too. both have a better resume than both guys. are they better ranked p4p fighters right now than gennady golovkin?
                    P4p is not who's better right now. You literally just made up your own criteria.

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                    • therealpugilist
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by New England
                      how does that make any sense?

                      if you "slice" the last 2 years of both fighter's careers, and look at them objectivey, golovkin has a much better resume. murray and lemiuex are a much better set of names than unproven sullivan barrera, and overweight and retired paul smith.
                      at the end of their careers...will they be remembered for the years 2014-2016 or will their entire body of work be measured? I know GGG is your boy but why cant you just face the fact he has work to do on his career....his resume is no where near words....learn how to deal with facts instead of cook up something to make a baseless point

                      you're not ****** man...fighters are remembered by their body of work, not by 2 year intervals

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