Who is better: Paul Smith/Barrera or David Lemieux/Murray/Macklin/Geale

[soul_survivor]

Murray has proven he can compete at world level consistently. Smith, Brand & Sullivan have not. Murray>Those.

Geale & Lemieux have a better win set than the 3 Ward opponents. Sturm, Sylvester, Karmazin, Mundine, N'dam, Guerrero, Rosado & Fletcher.

1 of them was also a rival champion.

Golovkins3>Wards 3.

Agreed.

Although Farage can go eff himself.

[soul_survivor]

bro you need to stop comparing Golovkin to Ward, its not even a matter of opinion. Everyone knows Ward is more accomplished, Golovkin a person i really like hasn't done anything career than he thinks Canelo should meet his requirements, its absurd. Golovkin said he would come down to 154 for floyd but not Canelo, said he would go up to 168 for Froch but not Ward. He chases money not legacy.

Who said I'm comparing GGG and Ward? I'm just pointing out that a certain poster said Paul Smith was better than Murray, or at least on par. Is that what you also think?

I think the poll speaks for itself.

[therealpugilist]

That's not going into detail, that's just listing names.

bro your agenda is obvious.....compare their ENTIRE resume...not just the years when this guy had injuries, and a law suit going on....dude has only fought a few times since 2012.

Be a man and admit you dont like Ward because if the fight happened with GGG, you were not confident of a GGG win so you want Ward to get injured or take a loss already.

[therealpugilist]

Who said I'm comparing GGG and Ward? I'm just pointing out that a certain poster said Paul Smith was better than Murray, or at least on par. Is that what you also think?

I think the poll speaks for itself.

their both euro level....Happy?

[soul_survivor]

their both euro level....Happy?

It's arguable whether or not Murray is euro level or above, considering his performances against world champions.

Smith was barely even domestic level in the UK.

So no, they aren't the same. Stop trying to damage control for your "homies".

[Cutthroat]

Murray has proven he can compete at world level consistently. Smith, Brand & Sullivan have not. Murray>Those.

Geale & Lemieux have a better win set than the 3 Ward opponents. Sturm, Sylvester, Karmazin, Mundine, N'dam, Guerrero, Rosado & Fletcher.

1 of them was also a rival champion.

Golovkins3>Wards 3.

Murray is on par with Smith and below Brand, Smith proved he could hang with Abraham which is why there was a rematch he did just as well as Murray even hurting AA.

Brand arguably beat current SMW champion Jack and just came off a win against a young undefeated contender.

Geale got destroyed by jmw Cotto, Lemieux's punches have been walked through by the likes of 154lber Alcine and Rubio (Alcine consistently rocked him) and his opponents connect at ridiculous %'s which is why N'dam was still in the fight despite getting dropped 3x.

Barrera destroyed Murat and out boxed him in the process, not even Hopkins could do that who was eating and trading leather with him the full 12 rounds.

Smith and Barrera>lil g's resume

[therealpugilist]

TS is such a crap poster. And the sad part is he actually thinks he some boxing historian. Lol. Pathetic.

^^^^^why would you compare 2 fighters to 4

also why compare the time when a guy had legal issues and injuries and only fought like 3-4 times.

too much of a punk to just compare their full body of work because he knows what time it is...side by side, one guys looks like a decent resume...GGG...the other guys looks like an elite resume..

[therealpugilist]

It's arguable whether or not Murray is euro level or above, considering his performances against world champions.

Smith was barely even domestic level in the UK.

So no, they aren't the same. Stop trying to damage control for your "homies".

plenty of decent fighters have had a good go with a top fighter

styles makes fights

being able to hang or compete is not the same as actually winning...winning is what its about...their is no morale victories in boxing

both are euro level and never beat a world class opponent

[Sadiqkingofko]

Who said I'm comparing GGG and Ward? I'm just pointing out that a certain poster said Paul Smith was better than Murray, or at least on par. Is that what you also think?

I think the poll speaks for itself.

No way smith is better than murray but Groves proved Murray was overrated tho

[therealpugilist]

No way smith is better than murray but Groves proved Murray was overrated tho

most people knew murray was euro level...GGG fans pumped him up because GGG has a thin resume....quite simple to see.....Murray has literally 0 wins over world class opposition