What if FMJ was fighting the likes of Brand in his prime?

[muslimer12]

my point was he fought 15 current or former titlist in a row....pretty simple.....who else has done that and get criticized.....most of them were coming off big wins.

either way people sound stupid questioning his opposition but pump up fighters whose opposition isnt close

But theres levels to this ****. Mayweather is an ATG so he is held at a higher standard.

[therealpugilist]

But theres levels to this ****. Mayweather is an ATG so he is held at a higher standard.

Manny Pacquaio is an all time great that campaigned in the same weight class since 2008....147

people picked apart everyone who Mayweather fought...said he ducked people until he beat them, and then insert excuse

whereas with manny you didnt as much as here a peep in the media, publications, or the same posters complain about Manny fighting guys who didnt do anything at the weight before they fought him or were catchweights...Algieri, Bradley(1st fight), Rios, JMM didnt beat any one top ten when he fought them...mosley was #1 at 147 when Mayweather fought him and manny fights the man years with a win at the same weight


people are more critical of fighters they dislike than fighters the like...its simple and obvious

[Chuckguy]

Problem is Floyd took the least risk highest reward fights after beating Oscar. Before that I can't see how people can criticize floydie after well there is plenty to criticize him for only certain posters slurp him up blindly I'm pretty sure you all know who I'm talking about

[muslimer12]

Manny Pacquaio is an all time great that campaigned in the same weight class since 2008....147

people picked apart everyone who Mayweather fought...said he ducked people until he beat them, and then insert excuse

whereas with manny you didnt as much as here a peep in the media, publications, or the same posters complain about Manny fighting guys who didnt do anything at the weight before they fought him or were catchweights...Algieri, Bradley(1st fight), Rios, JMM didnt beat any one top ten when he fought them...mosley was #1 at 147 when Mayweather fought him and manny fights the man years with a win at the same weight


people are more critical of fighters they dislike than fighters the like...its simple and obvious

Pacquiao deserves to get critiqued the same. but lets be honest, JMM was brought up to WW first by mayweather, rios was a comeback fight after manny got KOd, Algieri was meh, but he just beat provo and had a belt. Bradley was a good win.

Both fighters can be critiqued. but mayweather had the more chances to fight better opposition and took the easier fights. Not bad wins just not the best out there. Pacqiuao did it once with Cotto with the catchweight. I dont really blame pacman for the catchweights against oscar or marg cuz he was a smaller man going up in weight to fight them.

[therealpugilist]

Pacquiao deserves to get critiqued the same. but lets be honest, JMM was brought up to WW first by mayweather, rios was a comeback fight after manny got KOd, Algieri was meh, but he just beat provo and had a belt. Bradley was a good win.

Both fighters can be critiqued. but mayweather had the more chances to fight better opposition and took the easier fights. Not bad wins just not the best out there. Pacqiuao did it once with Cotto with the catchweight. I dont really blame pacman for the catchweights against oscar or marg cuz he was a smaller man going up in weight to fight them.

both can be critique...the media, publications, spent a lot of time trashing mayweather and his choice of opponent while Pac fought lesser guys and got a pass

like you said he was held to an entirely different standard


Mayweather started at 130....so you dont think he spend a lot of time being the smaller man having fought from 130-154?

anyway who are these so called better fighters? Do you really think in 07 Margarito or williams who both lost in around this time were more dangerous than Oscar De La Hoya who is a hall of famer and fought him at his first fight at 154...he chose the ring size, glove brand and size, etc.

how did mayweather have more chances to fight better opposition when they were in the same division for years?

some people wanted the guy to lose and are disappointed

Canelo is a better fighter than both Margo and williams and he beat him easy

several guys he fought were better than those two

[muslimer12]

both can be critique...the media, publications, spent a lot of time trashing mayweather and his choice of opponent while Pac fought lesser guys and got a pass

like you said he was held to an entirely different standard


Mayweather started at 130....so you dont think he spend a lot of time being the smaller man having fought from 130-154?

anyway who are these so called better fighters? Do you really think in 07 Margarito or williams who both lost in around this time were more dangerous than Oscar De La Hoya who is a hall of famer and fought him at his first fight at 154...he chose the ring size, glove brand and size, etc.

how did mayweather have more chances to fight better opposition when they were in the same division for years?

some people wanted the guy to lose and are disappointed

Canelo is a better fighter than both Margo and williams and he beat him easy

several guys he fought were better than those two

I think him bringing hatton up for a fight at WW. then retiring, when he could of fought williams, cotto, mosley, marg instead. As well as waiting till last year to fight pacquiao. Also him fighting Cotto at 154 but canelo at 152 was lame, pacqiuao fighting cotto at 145 not 147 was also lame.

You are saying that mayweather is getting critiqued too much, but you are doing the opposite and making him seem like he is above all criticism.

[Jubei]

I would say Brand is on a Rod Salka level, the combination of size, experience and age just speaks volume.

[elgu]

Ward loves them bums. When your last 4 opponents are Rodriguez, Paul the bum, Barrera, and Brand and you want to be considere P4P you're a joke.

Andre the Bumslayer!!!