Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Return: Eubank Jr. The Betting Favorite To Be Selected

[JUNIABOY]

So Dawson was weight drained. Maybe, maybe not. But what I don't get is how its Ward's fault that Dawson got on TV and shot his mouth off. The way I look it. Dawson was the legitimate light heavyweight champion. He was also on every respectable P4P list when they fought.

As for Dawson never being any good anyway. He convincingly beat Bernard Hopkins 2-3yrs before Kovalev. Outside of GGG, your kind think Kovalev is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Hopkins, 2-3yrs later, is Kovalev's best win. Furthermore, if GGG fought Hopkins today, Bernard would be the best win of his career, at 50 something.

As for Kessler. The fight doesn't count because you don't like the way Ward fought. Funny.

And Froch. Since when do you beat a guy easily, and have to travel to his home turf for him to avenge?

Fighting in someone's backyard was never a problem for the ATG's. Ali is the perfect example of this. He was a boxer who would fight anybody, anywhere, any time. Just pointing out that you denigrate an argument when there's merit there. Boxing fans want boxers to challenge themselves. How many boxers are willing to fight an opponent in their turf?...now that's a challenge.

[JUNIABOY]

I'd give him credit if he fought Ramirez, Degale, Jack, even Jacobs for that matter, though Jacobs may not want the fight, that's on him, but these low tier guys? I mean enough is enough. Or is it? GayLoveKins management also needs to stop the lies and flip flopping.

You sure you don't want to add another dozen boxers onto that list?

[Sparked_26]

The most interesting fight at 160 for me.

Danny Jacobs seems vulnerable and BJS gasses.

But banking on a belief that Chris Eubank JR is packing an absolute rock of a head like his father and virtually un-KOable. A view largely unfounded yet I accept. He has only really been in with Spike O'Sullivan who can whack a bit.

[hitking]

By your logic, the winner of Kovalev/Ward (which will be Kovalev, if it ever happens) should be targetting cruiserweight champions, not a hype job 15lbs lighter than him.

Li'l g has never beaten anybody, so what would beating him do for Kovalev or Ward's legacy?

I've said numerous times that Kovalev should try his luck at not only cruiserweight. He should try his luck at heavyweight. He's being talked about as a great light heavyweight. Pretty much every great light heavyweight in history has tested the heavyweight waters. If he's successful against Ward, and no new challenges arise, he should follow suite.

As for Ward, he's trying to conquer a new division. Kinda hard to ask a guy to move up, especially as big a jump as cruiserweight or heavyweight would be, when's he's already recently made a jump in weight. But yes, if he has a successful, sustained run at light heavy. Of course I'd wanna see him move up and try his luck at cruiserweight and even heavyweight.

Believe it more not, all of us don't follow boxing exclusively through our favorite fighters. Truthfully, you're a casual fight fight, that's a hardcore fan of a signle fighter. And your entire boxing existance revoloves around GGG. You want GGG to win. You want every win to be viewed in as positive a light as possible. And you want everyone to see and acknowledge the greatness you think you're witnessing. Me on the other hand. I don't give a **** about seeing my favs lose. Do I have guys I like? Yep. Do I like to see them do well? Yep. Will my entire boxing existence crumble if they get their asses kicked like yours will when GGG loses? F.uck no. Hence, the difference between a real fight fan. Me. And a fanboy. You.

[hitking]

Fighting in someone's backyard was never a problem for the ATG's. Ali is the perfect example of this. He was a boxer who would fight anybody, anywhere, any time. Just pointing out that you denigrate an argument when there's merit there. Boxing fans want boxers to challenge themselves. How many boxers are willing to fight an opponent in their turf?...now that's a challenge.

Ward beat Froch convincingly amd there was ZERO intrigue nor demand for a rematch. That's the point. Where they fought it is irrelevant.

BTW, the Ali card doesn't win arguments.

[JUNIABOY]

Opinions are like culo's everyone has one. Sideline fans calling boxers cans yet will watch those same "cans" go life and death with names they don't bash but because they get made to look like spoiled milk they are "cans". Canelo has 40 something fights, has actually fought maybe 5 names not coming up in weight, drained, or out of their prime. Garcia has the same kind of resume in 30 something fights but those guys get called the best of their division. Geale was a bum until Cotto beat him, Lemieux will be a bum until Canelo beats him and the song goes on. Rigo has one scalp on his resume so that makes him what average too? Or the fact you make decent fighters look like they were just pulled off the street not count for anything? I'm not calling and have never called Golovkin pound for pound anything but to say he's fought cans is ludicrous when three back to back lineals won't fight him, the other champions in the division need life changing money to even set foot in the ring with him but he's not dominant..I guess boxing scene knows something those world class fighters don't.

You are so absolutely right. The same guys who accuse GGG of fighting nothing but cans are also the same guys who will say that belts don't matter. These guys are a disgrace to the boxing community. Please continue to tell it how it is.

[JUNIABOY]

Ward beat Froch convincingly amd there was ZERO intrigue nor demand for a rematch. That's the point. Where they fought it is irrelevant.

BTW, the Ali card doesn't win arguments.

Yea, & then Ward proceeded to defend his belt against none of the top SMW's who he hadn't fought in the super-6...aka, Bute. I also named Dirrell & DeGale as 2 other guys who would have been good title defenses for Ward. Not downplaying his resume...but some are mistaken when they say he cleaned out the division. Absolutely Ward was the best in the division...but never did he ever clean it out.

And why doesn't the Ali card win arguments? Are we talking about the same Ali standard that most boxers would like to live up to? Why are we dismissing using Ali as an argumentative point anyway?

[New England]

talented but vulnerable kid. way too open when he throws. golovkin will time him and hurt him. no way he has the experience to survive.

talented kid doe. i think he'll hit golovkin, especially while he's still confident and throwing.



5-7 rounds.

[TudorMiron]

Do not why but I have the feeling both BJS and and Chris would price themselves out or demand UK as venue.

'We want to fight GGG tomorrow but on our terms.'

GGG and his team always stated that they have no problem coming to UK for a good fight.

[deanrw]

Have you ever tried to wrap your mind around the thougt that guys aren't out there trying to unify belts because it doesn't really matter anymore. You don't really have to beat anybody good to do it.

I agree that moving up belt-grabbing isn't a great feat either. That's why I say move up and chase names, not belts. If legacy is what GGG is all about, the Ward-Kovalev winner has to be his target. I mean, he is worth $25M according to you. So he's got money. Let's do spme legacy **** now. Agreed???

So your way to greatness is straps in multiple divisions to equate greatness? I am sure Burns, Broner and countless others will agree with you. I mean undisputed champs, how can they be worth anything right? So few of them over the years LOL