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  • kafkod
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    #171
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    people who know and understand the game can see whats up

    that is why I stated that you casual fans are clueless about levels

    Andre Ward said that Bute badly needed to prove himself because he had fought NOBODY.... and that if Bute beat Froch, he would get that fight.

    well, what happened ?
    People who know and understand the game call bullshit whenever a fighter turns down a big money offer by saying the opponent "needs to prove himself"

    Ward didn't fancy Bute, and that's a fact.

    If Bute's promoter had made the same offer to Ward AFTER Bute got KTFO by Froch, Andre would have accepted it in a heartbeat. And that's another fact.

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    • Metho_4u
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      #172
      Originally posted by bluzi
      When one fighter is so much better then rest , it makes everyone bums , it happens with Wlad , it happened with Floyd (haters at least claiming that each fight was a cheery pick and the fighter a bum) it happens with GGG , if he was not there Canelo will be fighting there and ppl will say its a stack division and competitive and what not.
      Haters will hate as always , you aren't winning against all this top contenders (not elite sure but world level) without really being good and the way GGG handles them he is REALLY good , take Fonfara , is he a good boxer sure, but he got rocked by a no name , why ? because boxing is not chess you can get caught you can get hurt and to be on top for so long isn't simple , thats why Floyd/Wlad are ATG`s (our era) and this is why GGG will be HOF when all said and done if he keeps winning against quality opposition , not everyone have a ATG around their weight class ,which is the case in GGG current situation , he will get 0 credit from the haters no matter WHO or HOW he wins unless he beats a 175 fighter ... this make no sense.
      The haters will never let anyone build up to be a real challenge for him , all the new comers will be labeled unproven no matter their talent this is futile.
      At least Canelo would have moved up. This argument also holds no water btw. Canelo, like him or not, HAS fought top opposition. He has fought Floyd, Lara, Trout, and Cotto, allhad decent shots at winning (with one schooling). I don't include Angulo, Kirkland, etc, because they suck. My point is that he has fought some guys who were top fighters, yet again, GayLoveKin has not done that

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      • M Bison
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        #173
        Originally posted by Metho_4u
        Are you absolutely ******? I've never seen someone swallow so much knob that it was hanging from his anus. Bigger than Kovalev vs Ward? Gtfo with that
        Eubank Jr and GGG are simply the bigger names in boxing you understand how you become the bigger name, right?
        It has something to do with having a bigger fanbase and more people knowing who you are.

        Now cry some more

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          #174
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          I don't think so. The best of that lot was Froch, who was the bookies underdog a few years back when there was talk of that fight. He was also #1 active SMw, with a career high top 10 p4p ranking
          Yeah because people are morons. I'd expect Froch to do what he did to Bute to the smaller GGG. And Froch was not better than Ward or Kessler. He did lose to both and struggled with a half blind Kessler the second time.

          A prime Kessler(the one from the Calzaghe fight) would fu(king bury GGG.

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            #175
            Originally posted by Freedom2016
            Eubank Jr and GGG are simply the bigger names in boxing you understand how you become the bigger name, right?
            It has something to do with having a bigger fanbase and more people knowing who you are.

            Now cry some more
            Yup, Mr. 97K ......... The sad part is Eubank has the bigger fanbase than GGG

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            • Mike_R
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              #176
              Really don't think Eubank Jr is ready for GGG, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't make this fight if Billy Joe and Jacobs are off the table. It's the next biggest thing to consider and GGG's team can't keep making **** fights with no-namers.

              I assumed Eubank Jr and BJS would tie themselves up in their rematch, surprised the GGG fight is potentially on deck first for Eubank. If he takes it I'll have a ton of respect for him.

              I think GGG would stop him around round 8.

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              • kafkod
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                #177
                Originally posted by RINGG
                Sure you don't mean Andre Dirrell here?
                Nope, Andre Ward. The UK judge was the only one who scored it big for Ward - probably trying too hard not to be biased - the other 2 both had Ward winning by just 2 rounds. All 3 judges gave Froch the last 2 rounds.

                History has been re-written by some people regarding that fight.

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                • PivotandRoll
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by SniXSniPe
                  Wow. You're actually trying to use that as a valid argument? Larger men beating a guy in a smaller weight division makes that division better? That's completely idiotic. Unless, you mentioned it to take a jab at Golovkin...

                  What next, Heavyweight is a more competitive division than Welterweight because the Heavyweights would beat them?

                  Really? You seriously must live under a rock or be heavily biased if you put SMW so far above the current middleweight era. The whole point I made is that SMW was not as, "far above" middleweight as the haters make it sound like.

                  Gennady Golovkin
                  Danny Jacobs
                  Billy Joe Saunders
                  Chris Eubank Jr.
                  David Lemieux
                  Andy Lee
                  Peter Quillin
                  Maciej Sulecki
                  Ievgen Khytrov
                  Ryota Murata

                  This doesn't even include Canelo or Cotto to the list. There really is nothing wrong with the current middleweight era.

                  Then there was Sergio Martinez, JCC Jr., Pirog, and Felix Sturm a few years ago.


                  "horrible division", lol. K.
                  You are an idiot.

                  You're comparing the likes of Andy Lee, Peter Quillen and David Lemieux to Mikkel Kessler and Andre Ward.

                  You are actually so fu(king dumb. Obviously, and I do mean obviously I meant that if GGG moved up to 168 that all of those men would beat him. That is a statement about his level as a fighter.

                  Martinez was a great fighter. Pirog had potential(He did ghost that other"great" fighter Jacobs on your list),. Cotto and Canelo aren't MW's and it's actually hilarious to see a GGG groupie try and say they are now after like a year of "they aren't real MWs durr"

                  There is GGG and There is Saunders.....That is all....

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                  • alexguiness
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                    #179
                    Eubank Jnr will be fighting GGG off a tune up against...Tom Doran.

                    Eubank Snr must have his creditors knocking at the door again...

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                    • kafkod
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by PivotandRoll
                      Yup, Mr. 97K ......... The sad part is Eubank has the bigger fanbase than GGG
                      You can always spot the biased haters in GGG related threads by looking for the phrase "Mr 97k"

                      Eubank obviously has a bigger UK fan base than Golovkin. World wide though, Golovkin has way more fans than Jr. There really is no comparison.

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