Why GGG gets criticized but Rigondeaux gets a pass?

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  • TheCell8
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    #21
    Originally posted by HAY-B
    I think it might have a little to do with the way hbo pushes GGG on the masses compared to how they siht on rigo. This is just a general statement / my own personal opinion. I'm sure others may feel different
    They've given Rigo ample opportunities. He stunk up the joint against Agbeko and produced some terrible ratings. Then his first fight back to HBO in 2 years against some Filipino car salesman he stinks up the joint again. How many more chances do they need to give him before they realize that a) Fans don't care much for him and b) he can't produce ratings c) He's been woefully inactive.

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      #22
      Originally posted by HAY-B
      I think it might have a little to do with the way hbo pushes GGG on the masses compared to how they siht on rigo. This is just a general statement / my own personal opinion. I'm sure others may feel different
      It's not like they haven't tried to push rigo...but it's all in the results. He talks like he's the best fighter on earth but he coasts against weak opposition. Even his performance against donaire, which was a beautiful display of boxing, doesn't resonate with the casual fans who want to see a brawl or a ko. Bottom line is ggg covers a wider range of fans...not saying he's better than rigo, but what he does can be appreciated by non-purists, which happen to make up a large amount of paying fans.

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        #23
        Probably because Since Rigo beat Donaire he's been essentially blackballed and banished from TR & HBo and had to fight any name he could get

        GGG on the other hand is HBOs love child and has their full backing so there's probably more of a expectation for him to get a big name.

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        • just the facts
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          #24
          Originally posted by lopetego
          ...for the way they're managing their respective careers?

          They're practically in the same situation and have taken the same kind of decissions

          - Both have been disgracefully ducked by the top names of their divisions for years, the so called champs would rather vacate the belts than fighting them

          - Both have been fighting B levels, no hopers or outright bums because they can't get a big fight

          - Both are praised as unbeatable gods in their own divisions, both are getting old, people wants to see them challenged asap so they can solidify their legacies before they are washed up, but both fighters have avoided what could have been the greatest test of their careers. Ward and Lomachenko, respectively

          - Both fighters are trying to nitpick the fights they would move up or down for:

          ---- GGG is willing to move up to 168 for Froch or Chavez, but not for Ward, he'll only fight Ward at a catchweight. He'll move down to 154 for Floyd, but not to 155 for Canelo

          --- similarly, Rigo has claimed he'd move up in weight for Santa Cruz or Jhonny Gonzalez, but not for Lomachenko. He'll only fight Loma at a catchweight

          I'm not trying to criticize these fighters for doing what's best for their careers (or at least that's what they think). The point is, GGG gets lapidated by haters on daily basis for taking these decissions, meanwhile, Rigo does the exact same **** and gets a free pass from the same hatas, and pretty much everyone else

          so why the double standards? These guys are in the exact same position, they're both too good and too avoided, their clock is tickling, they need big legacy fights asap, yet they're not taking the few chances available for them

          why the double standards?
          The difference is when Rigo was presented an opportunity to prove himself (vs Donaire, #6 p4p at the time) he jumped all over it and got the job done. When g string was presented that opportunity (vs Ward), team g string insisted upon a catch weight that Ward couldn't possibly make and killed the fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by el***
            Loma has Rigo shook and for good reason. He aint going near him with a 10 foot pole.

            Rigo is a chicken. Deserves all the criticism he gets, dude will be 40 soon enough without ever having fought anyone good.
            and the same logic can be applied to g string.

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              #26
              Originally posted by lopetego
              So because he fought one big name in his entire career he gets a lifetime pass? It's that how it works?

              So let's say, if GGG had beaten Martinez years ago, before Murray or Cotto got to him, he would have gotten a lifetime pass and wouldn't need to face anyone with a pulse ever again?

              I dont think so

              Rigo is 35 with miserable 16 fights, and aside from Donaire he's fought nothing but BUMS

              GGG's resume is better, he doesn't have a huge name like Nonito in his resume but at least many of GGG's opponents have been top 10 mw's and contenders, Rigo fights bums from the alley

              if you're gonna criticize one guy, you have to do the same with the other
              you're convinently ignoring facts to fit your agenda

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                #27
                Originally posted by lopetego
                ...for the way they're managing their respective careers?

                They're practically in the same situation and have taken the same kind of decissions

                - Both have been disgracefully ducked by the top names of their divisions for years, the so called champs would rather vacate the belts than fighting them

                - Both have been fighting B levels, no hopers or outright bums because they can't get a big fight

                - Both are praised as unbeatable gods in their own divisions, both are getting old, people wants to see them challenged asap so they can solidify their legacies before they are washed up, but both fighters have avoided what could have been the greatest test of their careers. Ward and Lomachenko, respectively

                - Both fighters are trying to nitpick the fights they would move up or down for:

                ---- GGG is willing to move up to 168 for Froch or Chavez, but not for Ward, he'll only fight Ward at a catchweight. He'll move down to 154 for Floyd, but not to 155 for Canelo

                --- similarly, Rigo has claimed he'd move up in weight for Santa Cruz or Jhonny Gonzalez, but not for Lomachenko. He'll only fight Loma at a catchweight

                I'm not trying to criticize these fighters for doing what's best for their careers (or at least that's what they think). The point is, GGG gets lapidated by haters on daily basis for taking these decissions, meanwhile, Rigo does the exact same **** and gets a free pass from the same hatas, and pretty much everyone else

                so why the double standards? These guys are in the exact same position, they're both too good and too avoided, their clock is tickling, they need big legacy fights asap, yet they're not taking the few chances available for them

                why the double standards?
                It's Canelo's fans who are looking for anything to excuse the cowardice of their fighter.

                "Oh, GGG's a bum who only fights bums"

                Alright then, Canelo should be RUNNING to fight him and pick up all those belts.

                "Um, he said he'd beat anybody between 154-168, but wouldn't move up for Ward".

                Yet, Canelo comes into the ring at 180lbs, yet continually fights much smaller fighters at Caneloweight.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by lopetego
                  So because he fought one big name in his entire career he gets a lifetime pass? It's that how it works?

                  So let's say, if GGG had beaten Martinez years ago, before Murray or Cotto got to him, he would have gotten a lifetime pass and wouldn't need to face anyone with a pulse ever again?

                  I dont think so

                  Rigo is 35 with miserable 16 fights, and aside from Donaire he's fought nothing but BUMS

                  GGG's resume is better, he doesn't have a huge name like Nonito in his resume but at least many of GGG's opponents have been top 10 mw's and contenders, Rigo fights bums from the alley

                  if you're gonna criticize one guy, you have to do the same with the other
                  Lmao Donaire is a first ballot HOF, who on GGG'S resume is first ballot? Geale? Rubio? How about Lemeiux?

                  Rigo's win over Donaire may have been a while ago but it's still a risky and great win!

                  GGG had/has his chances with likes of Pound for Pound top 2 boxer and king of supermiddleweight Andre Ward and currently the best jr.middleweight fighter and champ just one division below!!

                  Yeah, Rigo ducked Loma but the man is very small even for his division! GGG has enough in his arsenal where he can keep much bigger fighters very honest and even beat them!

                  That 168-154 gaffe will go down as GGG's haunting moment even if a can he fights happens to catch him cold with a lucky KO!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by just the facts
                    The difference is when Rigo was presented an opportunity to prove himself (vs Donaire, #6 p4p at the time) he jumped all over it and got the job done. When g string was presented that opportunity (vs Ward), team g string insisted upon a catch weight that Ward couldn't possibly make and killed the fight.
                    Right...so it's exactly the same fighting a guy in your own division ranked 6th as it is moving up 8 lbs to fight arguably the best in the world...

                    Keep on reaching......Rigo could have moved up 4 lbs for Lomachenko, or did that slip your feeble mind? Rigo can keep on fighting japenese fish market workers on New Year's Eve and never be seen again and I'm sure nobody would even care....

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                      Right...so it's exactly the same fighting a guy in your own division ranked 6th as it is moving up 8 lbs to fight arguably the best in the world...

                      Keep on reaching......Rigo could have moved up 4 lbs for Lomachenko, or did that slip your feeble mind?
                      Rigo can keep on fighting japenese fish market workers on New Year's Eve and never be seen again and I'm sure nobody would even care....
                      Not without a re hydration clause or a CW or 1.5 mil. Making all these demands when he has no leverage. He should have taken the 500k they offered him for the Loma fight.

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