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  • #31
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
    Good, he needs to feel that embarrassment and come to terms with it. The way he fought, knowing he was behind on the cards and with his corner asking for a KO, was all-mental. That's perhaps the hardest type of problem to fix so it will be really interesting to see if he can mentally adjust. If he let his hands go, I have no doubt that he could dish a vicious beating on Fury.

    This is sort of a Wlad vs Wlad fight to me. No offense to Fury fans. I like Hodor, er, I mean Tyson Fury because he's fun to watch but think the outcome really depends on the condition of Wlad's mind. If Tyson couldn't hurt or land even 8 punches a round on a mentally broken Wlad, how is he going to handle one that is fighting back??
    That's exactly my thinking as well. But what if Wladimir is just plan ole' old? This fight has legacy implications for him and I'm psyched for it.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
      Good, he needs to feel that embarrassment and come to terms with it. The way he fought, knowing he was behind on the cards and with his corner asking for a KO, was all-mental. That's perhaps the hardest type of problem to fix so it will be really interesting to see if he can mentally adjust. If he let his hands go, I have no doubt that he could dish a vicious beating on Fury.

      This is sort of a Wlad vs Wlad fight to me. No offense to Fury fans. I like Hodor, er, I mean Tyson Fury because he's fun to watch but think the outcome really depends on the condition of Wlad's mind. If Tyson couldn't hurt or land even 8 punches a round on a mentally broken Wlad, how is he going to handle one that is fighting back??
      It's hard to hurt or land punches on a man who doesn't want to throw punches, and who's sole concern is to avoid damage.

      People seem to forget, Wlad is one of the best HW defensive boxers of all time. His defensive style of fighting, coupled with his size and illegal holding tactics make it almost impossible to look good against him.

      It's probably why he'd barely lost a round in 12 years.

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      • #33
        Wlad not letting his hands go probably saved him from losing inside the distance to Fury.

        I think he's making a mistake by coming back for more instead of accepting that his time at the top is over and being grateful to go out with a points defeat instead of getting KO'd.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          Wlad not letting his hands go probably saved him from losing inside the distance to Fury.

          I think he's making a mistake by coming back for more instead of accepting that his time at the top is over and being grateful to go out with a points defeat instead of getting KO'd.
          Possibly but he has to at least attempt to avenge the defeat.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
            Good, he needs to feel that embarrassment and come to terms with it. The way he fought, knowing he was behind on the cards and with his corner asking for a KO, was all-mental. That's perhaps the hardest type of problem to fix so it will be really interesting to see if he can mentally adjust. If he let his hands go, I have no doubt that he could dish a vicious beating on Fury.

            This is sort of a Wlad vs Wlad fight to me. No offense to Fury fans. I like Hodor, er, I mean Tyson Fury because he's fun to watch but think the outcome really depends on the condition of Wlad's mind. If Tyson couldn't hurt or land even 8 punches a round on a mentally broken Wlad, how is he going to handle one that is fighting back??
            Lol when did Wlad suddenly become mentally broken for that fight?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by bboy80 View Post
              Lol when did Wlad suddenly become mentally broken for that fight?
              He walked into the ring mentally broken apparently.

              Fury had nothing to do with it.

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              • #37
                I'm a Wladimir fan but I don't understand this whole didn't let his hands go talk. Are we all going to pretend the fights with Ibragimov & Chambers didn't happen? They showed him movement and he didn't let his hands go there either. It took Manny Steward going absolutely bat**** at him and reminding him of the Ibragimov ****fest for him too finally let his hands go some. It was exactly like he did in the Fury fight only he managed to land that big shot and take Fat Eddie out.
                People always seem to forget what happens prior to a K.O like that erases what happened prior.

                In his other fights too, Povetkin for example there was nonstop opportunities to land that right hand in fact every punch in the book. He'd line it up then just clinch. Its what he does, its how he fights. He is a very cautious fighter who just isn't confident when he can't constantly touch an opponent and keep them on the end of his jab. He could end most of these guys in a few rounds he just doesn't take any risks until they're completely dead on their feet.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                  I'm a Wladimir fan but I don't understand this whole didn't let his hands go talk. Are we all going to pretend the fights with Ibragimov & Chambers didn't happen? They showed him movement and he didn't let his hands go there either. It took Manny Steward going absolutely bat**** at him and reminding him of the Ibragimov ****fest for him too finally let his hands go some. It was exactly like he did in the Fury fight only he managed to land that big shot and take Fat Eddie out.
                  People always seem to forget what happens prior to a K.O like that erases what happened prior.

                  In his other fights too, Povetkin for example there was nonstop opportunities to land that right hand in fact every punch in the book. He'd line it up then just clinch. Its what he does, its how he fights. He is a very cautious fighter who just isn't confident when he can't constantly touch an opponent and keep them on the end of his jab. He could end most of these guys in a few rounds he just doesn't take any risks until they're completely dead on their feet.
                  Pretty much what I've been saying.

                  The surprise is people were surprised.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bboy80 View Post
                    Lol when did Wlad suddenly become mentally broken for that fight?
                    You guys want us to pretend that Fury went from a lumbering oaf to master psychological boxer who stupefied one of the most dominant champs in history while that champ was in perfect form. Sorry if I choose not to play along.

                    I don't understand why Fury fans act like they have not watched anything besides his last 3 fights... You can like a boxer and still admit his limitations. Seriously, it feels good.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                      You guys want us to pretend that Fury went from a lumbering oaf to master psychological boxer who stupefied one of the most dominant champs in history while that champ was in perfect form. Sorry if I choose not to play along.

                      I don't understand why Fury fans act like they have not watched anything besides his last 3 fights... You can like a boxer and still admit his limitations. Seriously, it feels good.
                      So you disregard Wlad's previous fights where the exact same thing happened?

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