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  • #21
    Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
    It appears to me Wlad is taking sole blame for losing the fight, not blaming anyone else, the responsibility his own to burden. Like it or not the mentality Wlad has now he's telling us he's coming to let his hands go, if that is the case then Fury loses by KO.
    It doesn't matter what Wladimir does. he's not beating a 100% Tyson Fury. Wladimir can only pray that Fury comes in unfocused.

    A fully fit and motivated Fury plays with Wladimir. He's already mentally broken him. I bet Wladimir wakes up in the middle of night in a cold sweat obsessing about the Furious One.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by cupocity303 View Post
      I remember him giving a good quote a while back, and I'm only paraphrasing:

      Failure is not an option, until you needed to fail to get better.

      Lets see what happens. No predictions from me on this one. Lets just see.

      I thought I could roll with the Fury train with Wlad out of the picture, but Fury is an embarrassment and disgrace to the Title, with the way he is talking lately. Talking about not caring whether he gets defeated, that he will retire after this fight, that he doesn't need to train etc,.

      Not exactly promotional stuff.
      It will be difficult to ever root for Fury whilst he is active in the division, a lot of stuff he says is a turn off and his style is not particularly that exciting either, I guess his fans love the dressing up antics and like his swearing, I guess he's lit up the division in that sense, these guys are likely closet Briggs fans too. Lol.

      Wlad is saying he needed the loss to motivate him to become a better fighter, I'm not at all happy with the fact he has taken a loss to a guy I don't hold in particularly high regard but if he uses the loss as drive and determination to win by emphatic KO I'll walk away from the fight happy after the disappointment in November and seven months of waiting around for the rematch.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
        It will be difficult to ever root for Fury whilst he is active in the division, a lot of stuff he says is a turn off and his style is not particularly that exciting either, I guess his fans love the dressing up antics and like his swearing, I guess he's lit up the division in that sense, these guys are likely closet Briggs fans too. Lol.

        Wlad is saying he needed the loss to motivate him to become a better fighter, I'm not at all happy with the fact he has taken a loss to a guy I don't hold in particularly high regard but if he uses the loss as drive and determination to win by emphatic KO I'll walk away from the fight happy after the disappointment in November and seven months of waiting around for the rematch.
        Fury has a fan friendly style, is always in action packed fights (minus the Wlad fight, blame Wlad) and is pure entertainment outside of the ring.

        Yes, he can be controversial, but much of it is for the cameras, he is intelligent and knows that controversy sells.

        Boxing needed a champion like him. He is the savior that boxing needs, but doesn't deserve.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by denium View Post
          It doesn't matter what Wladimir does. he's not beating a 100% Tyson Fury. Wladimir can only pray that Fury comes in unfocused.

          A fully fit and motivated Fury plays with Wladimir. He's already mentally broken him. I bet Wladimir wakes up in the middle of night in a cold sweat obsessing about the Furious One.
          Excuses in early. 'Wlad can't defeat a 100 percent Fury'. Out of curiosity what is a hundred percent Fury ? I'm told he wasn't fighting at his best versus Klitschko so I'm to believe a hundred percent Fury is the one that fought Chisora, Hammer and Johnson right ? I mean he had the lengthily lay off before Abell, what a list right there lol. Have you ever stopped to consider Fury really has only looked special against the likes of the these guys, because he sure as hell didnt look this 100 percent whopping beast against a faded forty year old champ who hadn't lost in over a decade but had shown tell tale signs of decline in his previous fights versus Pulev and Jennings, his punch output significantly lower than earlier in his career, the Fury fight being an all time low.

          Klitschko fans aren't asking themselves can Wlad capture earlier career form or can Fury win by KO, because it is out of the realms of possibility, we are asking can he let his hands go for one last time to win by big KO. It's the only question worth considering in this fight or it is a repeat of the last, Fury, huffing, puffing and blowing whilst staying out of range for another 36 minutes, the silly faces, shoulder brushes and uncommitting feints are for you to get yourself excited over. I want a boxing fight, and whether the forty year old whom had been ducked three years earlier by the now 27 year old can now bring it is the only outcome I want to see after the disappointing showing of both last time they fought.

          I am accustomed to Klitschko fights, not so much Fury, after all the talk I expected much more from both, not just Klitschko. Fury fought well for his limitations though, kudos to him for managing to avoid the big punches in round twelve when Wlad finally decided to start throwing, if he could have just done so in round 10 or 11 the fight would have been so much different. He is in a position as such he has been given a second chance, call that smart negotiating or foolishness of Fury and his camp to accept any offer significantly higher than the previous, all I read from that though is Fluff never truly believed he would win.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
            Fury has a fan friendly style, is always in action packed fights (minus the Wlad fight, blame Wlad) and is pure entertainment outside of the ring.

            Yes, he can be controversial, but much of it is for the cameras, he is intelligent and knows that controversy sells.

            Boxing needed a champion like him. He is the savior that boxing needs, but doesn't deserve.

            Chisora 2011 and 2014 being an exciting fight right ? Being dropped by pillow fisted cruisers ?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
              Their was only one man looking for the KO in the Wlad Haye fight and it was not David Haye. Wlad pressed the action all night and was the aggressor, to compare Wlad to that night he has clearly declined since. That's the only comparison to draw from that fight. Besides that was 5 years and Wlad is forty years old now.

              Fury had a chance to face Wlad in 2012 but as he said he wasn't ready, or put simply Wlad hadn't shown enough signs of decline yet. This is the main question of the fight, does Wlad still have enough to beat the top men in the division or should he retire instead of going down the route many have before him, losing to lesser men they would have delt with handidly earlier in their career.
              It certainly wasn't Wlad either. He kept the distance and fought behind the jab, landing fewer power shots than Haye. So obviously he wasn't fighting for the KO, that's for sure. Aggressor Sure he was. Both of them did *** all in that fight.

              Yeah maybe he wasn't ready then. Is that ****** or smart? He beat Wlad when he got his shot and that's all that matters.

              I doubt Wlad would have dealt with Fury easily at any stage in his career.
              Last edited by LacedUp; 06-13-2016, 03:06 AM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
                Their was only one man looking for the KO in the Wlad Haye fight and it was not David Haye. Wlad pressed the action all night and was the aggressor, to compare Wlad to that night he has clearly declined since. That's the only comparison to draw from that fight. Besides that was 5 years and Wlad is forty years old now.
                I suggest you re-watch the fight, with your eyes open this time. Wlad was not remotely interested in getting a KO that night, he barely threw a right hand in anger. He was more than happy to keep Haye on the outside, neutralised. The only time I saw anyone attempt a KO was in the third round, when Haye cracked Wlad with an overhand right and Wlad had to hold, and in the 12th, when a desperate, outpointed Haye started throwing kamikaze hooks over the top.

                Wlad came out of that fight with no credit, in my view. He had a guy 2.5 stone lighter than him in front of him and he couldn't even mount a sustained attempt to record the stoppage he had promised ('David Haye will be number 50 on my knockout list'). He was content to win on points because he didn't want to put himself in harm's way. Period.

                This will be even easier for Fury than last time. How can Wlad escape his own mind? He has been a nervous, gunshy fighter for a long time. Fury is his physical equal (yes, I'm aware Wlad has a 'better' physique, that's not the issue) and Wlad does not have the confidence or spirit to fight the way he would need to in order to beat Fury. Plus, Fury is younger and awkward as hell to box. Plus he has his home crowd behind him. The odds are stacked in his favour.

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                • #28
                  I'm surprised Scott is even posting about this after making such a complete and utter fool out of himself during the build up to the last fight.

                  I would've hoped that you'd learned lesson by now Scott, but i guess Professor Fury will just have to give you another one.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
                    Their was only one man looking for the KO in the Wlad Haye fight and it was not David Haye. Wlad pressed the action all night and was the aggressor, to compare Wlad to that night he has clearly declined since. That's the only comparison to draw from that fight. Besides that was 5 years and Wlad is forty years old now.

                    Fury had a chance to face Wlad in 2012 but as he said he wasn't ready, or put simply Wlad hadn't shown enough signs of decline yet. This is the main question of the fight, does Wlad still have enough to beat the top men in the division or should he retire instead of going down the route many have before him, losing to lesser men they would have delt with handidly earlier in their career.
                    Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
                    Chisora 2011 and 2014 being an exciting fight right ? Being dropped by pillow fisted cruisers ?
                    I'd hardly call Cunningham pillow-fisted, but in answer to your question, YES, that was a very exciting fight. What does him being a cruiserweight have to do with anything? An exciting fight is an exciting fight.

                    First Chisora fight was actually pretty entertaining, although the second one stunk, mainly because Fury was so much better than Chisora and just totally shut down his offence. Fury probably wanted to win in the easiest manner possible and not sustain any cuts or injuries ahead of the Wlad fight, so boxed safety-first in that one.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by denium View Post
                      I'm surprised Scott is even posting about this after making such a complete and utter fool out of himself during the build up to the last fight.

                      I would've hoped that you'd learned lesson by now Scott, but i guess Professor Fury will just have to give you another one.
                      Haha, he's a glutton for punishment obviously.

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