Comments Thread For: Liam Smith Warns Canelo: I'm a Big 154, Khan Was Too Small!

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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by doninlouisiana
    And the really funny part is this will be for Smith's 154 belt at a catchweight of 155! I would hope Smith demands Canelo make the 154 limit and then a re-hydration limit of 164 pounds.
    If it's for Smith's belt 155 is out of the question. You can't fight for a world title if you weigh in over the limit for that division.

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    • Sparked_26
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      #32
      If you were Smith you'd want that fight at Caneloweight.

      You take your pasting. Keep your belt.

      And then go again against someone who is not a Crusierweight.

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      • Bronx2245
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        #33
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Oscar not only allowed it to happen, he joined in the foolery himself by taking the mic and telling Loeffler to pick up his phone tomorrow.

        Canelo can be excused because of youth and post fight adrenaline rush, but Oscar has made a complete arse out of himself.
        We finally agree on something!

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          #34
          Originally posted by EmmaJ
          Now watch once Triple G goes to 168, Goldenshowers and "Cowardo" will be crying about how Triple G moved up in weight to avoid the fight.

          You mean, like the lowest golovtards attempted to do with Ward ?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            Why are so many people surprised that Canelo vacated the belt? The wrting was on the wall a long time ago:

            April 27, 2016:
            Bernard Fernandez

            The worst-case scenario – and it might yet play out – is for Alvarez to vacate the WBC middleweight title or be stripped of it, enabling him to return to the super welterweight division he once ruled and still considers to be more of a natural fit, should his oft-stated preference for the 155-pound catch weight represent a line in the sand neither he nor Golovkin is willing to cross to accommodate the other. Were that to happen, Golovkin could, of course, still bid for the WBC championship against whomever emerged as Canelo’s replacement, but winning it under those circumstances would be hollow satisfaction. Remember, when the IBF stripped Tyson Fury of its version of the heavyweight champion for not fulfilling his mandatory, that slot was filled by Charles Martin, a larger version of Dominic Wade. When last we saw Martin, his shaky grip on the IBF title was being ripped away by Anthony Joshua in much the same manner that Golovkin blew away Wade.

            To his credit, or perhaps detriment, Golovkin places great stock in the concept of being the one and only king of the middleweights, and the first to hold the belts from all four major sanctioning bodies since Jermain Taylor scored a 12-round split decision over Hopkins on Dec. 3, 2005, laying claim to B-Hop’s WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO hardware in the process. Not since Hopkins and four-time former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield has any champion been so intent on rounding up as many world titles as possible in the same weight class and protecting them with the ferocity of a she-wolf guarding her cubs. The only problem with that philosophy is that sometimes one of the world sanctioning bodies orders a mandatory defense against someone with thin credentials and an artificially inflated record – someone, for instance, like Dominic Wade...

            But Hopkins knows a thing or two about leverage, and as a key figure in the Golden Boy hierarchy he doesn’t want Golovkin’s inexorable march toward his record to include a conquest of Alvarez, 25, who is the linchpin to the company’s long-term success. If the big fight happens, and Hopkins hopes it will, all well and good. Still, the fight before the fight takes place behind closed doors where contractual matters are finalized. If there is a possible parallel between Alvarez-Golovkin, Hopkins sees it as the April 6, 1987, pairing of Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler, with Canelo cast in the role of the terms-dictating Leonard.

            “If Steph Curry don’t play in the playoffs, his team is probably not going to repeat as the champion,” Hopkins said. “Canelo is like Steph Curry to Golden Boy. Of course we’re going to position him in such a way to maximize all his assets. But in saying that, you got to remember one thing: We don’t need `Triple G.’ He needs Canelo. At the end of the day, the fighter that holds all the cards would be a fool not to use that.

            Look, Oscar has or might make some decisions he might be criticized for – no, he will be criticized for – but so what? He is in the business of being a promoter. As a fighter, he dared to be great. As a promoter, he can’t dare to be ******. He has to make the right business move for his fighter, and the fact is that `Triple G’ stands to gain more from winning that fight. Of course, if Canelo wins, he becomes even more of a megastar than he already is. But he’s a megastar already.

            There will be a dialogue, a negotiation, and when it happens `Triple G’ won’t be operating from a position of strength. Look, I can remember when I couldn’t get the fights I wanted for a lot of reasons. Some of it was political. Some of it was personal. When push comes to shove, though, you do what you have to do.

            When I was the (light heavyweight) champion, I had to take off five pounds to make the Winky Wright fight, the Kelly Pavlik fight. I had a catch weight fight with Oscar when I had three middleweight championship belts and Bob Arum (then De La Hoya’s promoter) said the only way that fight would ever happen is if I agreed to come in at no more than 158 pounds. I could have *****ed and hollered about sweating off the extra weight, but I wanted the fight to happen. Was the money great? Yes. But I wanted to fight the best, and if I beat Oscar, God only knows what could happen after that. And, well, we know now what happened next.”

            http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...most-happened-

            Good post, but that is so damn obvious.

            In fact, the ONLY people who see things differently are Team Bull****.

            When Team Bull**** attempted to use the WBC to muscle Canelo into accepting their terms, they effectively killed the fight.

            The fight will never happen on their terms, they should have realised that.

            Yesterday they stated that Golovkin can beat "anyone from 154-168".

            Team Bull**** have been making that statement for THREE YEARS, so if the fight falls over because of the weight, then they failed to live up to their hype..... AGAIN!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              Because people believed what the media told them. They've been told for years that Mayweather is what's wrong with boxing. As soon as he retires boxing will be restored with the new stars, Canelo & GGG. Floyd has never pulled the BS that Canelo pulled. Dude created his own weight class and made a welterweight come up and fight him. A welterweight with no chin at that. Then pranced around the ring like he'd actually did something special when he KO'd him. I couldn't believe he was that proud of knocking out Khan.

              He never pulled the kind of bull**** that Team Bull**** pulled either.

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                #37
                Originally posted by RyanjLarose
                if canelo fights liam smith at 155 or above i'm done with the kid..154 sure do your thing

                They can't fight for Smith's title at 155.

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                • CmdrSoCal
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                  #38
                  First time I saw a pic of Smith I thought he was a 120 pounder. He looks way smaller than can-o-yellow and even tomato khan. He has fought nobody, I believe 60 something ranked Radosevic is the best. The guy is transitioning from boxer to traveling belt salesman in front of our eyes. He even makes tomato khan look good in comparison.

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                  • otrocubiche
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                    #39
                    it'd be poetic justice if Liam pulls a siri-juanma on canelo

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by EmmaJ
                      Now watch once Triple G goes to 168, Goldenshowers and "Cowardo" will be crying about how Triple G moved up in weight to avoid the fight.
                      Sounds like GGGoons with Andre Ward. Didn't he move up to LHW to avoid GGG. If GGG moves up to 168 Ward better RUN to Heavyweight!!!

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