Comments Thread For: Liam Smith Warns Canelo: I'm a Big 154, Khan Was Too Small!

[fredhopple]

Give Liam Smith the Canelo fight in Vegas not the UK as champ

Would Liam fight Canelo in Vegas making the champ travel a long way just for the big fight atmosphere of Las Vegas and huge crowd and a PPV? Probably not as the champion deserves to fight at home as it is his privilege as champion to demand a home bout with all the advantages. Now Canelo will say he is the star and demand the fight be in Vegas. Screw Canelo and make carrot top travel to the UK and submit to the champ Smith's demands. won't happen though as Canelo holds all the cards.

[BoxingFan85]

Avoid GGG. Drop down 1lb. Fight the easiest title holder in that division. A guy who got the title because of Andrade's shenanigans.

If he's fighting at 154 his next fight do you guys really believe he's moving up to 160 to face GGG in May?

Sure I do.. in May of 2020

This is quite baffling to the fight fans, GBP said they wont discuss Canelo's next fight until the court case is solved or discussed(or whatever word they used) but Warren is talking as if that's the fight Canelo is after & in reality there has been no offers from either promoters yet.. & still Loeffler says Gomez told him that they would discuss something next week about Canelo vs Golovkin..

I honestly don't think it is going to happen this year & GBP & K2 are only discussing if this can be done for May next year or sometime in future..

[robbyheartbaby]

The sooner they announce this the sooner we can see what GGG is doing next. Saunders where you at i don't know much about Smith but like his courage and will.

[EmmaJ]

Now watch once Triple G goes to 168, Goldenshowers and "Cowardo" will be crying about how Triple G moved up in weight to avoid the fight.

[MagikLair]

He's ranked #10 in the world. Two below Ishe Smith...Lara, Is ranked #1. So he's going down in competition.. Pretty lame.

http://boxrec.com/records?reset=1&se...weight&status=

[Bronx2245]

Why are so many people surprised that Canelo vacated the belt? The wrting was on the wall a long time ago:

April 27, 2016:
Bernard Fernandez

The worst-case scenario – and it might yet play out – is for Alvarez to vacate the WBC middleweight title or be stripped of it, enabling him to return to the super welterweight division he once ruled and still considers to be more of a natural fit, should his oft-stated preference for the 155-pound catch weight represent a line in the sand neither he nor Golovkin is willing to cross to accommodate the other. Were that to happen, Golovkin could, of course, still bid for the WBC championship against whomever emerged as Canelo’s replacement, but winning it under those circumstances would be hollow satisfaction. Remember, when the IBF stripped Tyson Fury of its version of the heavyweight champion for not fulfilling his mandatory, that slot was filled by Charles Martin, a larger version of Dominic Wade. When last we saw Martin, his shaky grip on the IBF title was being ripped away by Anthony Joshua in much the same manner that Golovkin blew away Wade.

To his credit, or perhaps detriment, Golovkin places great stock in the concept of being the one and only king of the middleweights, and the first to hold the belts from all four major sanctioning bodies since Jermain Taylor scored a 12-round split decision over Hopkins on Dec. 3, 2005, laying claim to B-Hop’s WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO hardware in the process. Not since Hopkins and four-time former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield has any champion been so intent on rounding up as many world titles as possible in the same weight class and protecting them with the ferocity of a she-wolf guarding her cubs. The only problem with that philosophy is that sometimes one of the world sanctioning bodies orders a mandatory defense against someone with thin credentials and an artificially inflated record – someone, for instance, like Dominic Wade...

But Hopkins knows a thing or two about leverage, and as a key figure in the Golden Boy hierarchy he doesn’t want Golovkin’s inexorable march toward his record to include a conquest of Alvarez, 25, who is the linchpin to the company’s long-term success. If the big fight happens, and Hopkins hopes it will, all well and good. Still, the fight before the fight takes place behind closed doors where contractual matters are finalized. If there is a possible parallel between Alvarez-Golovkin, Hopkins sees it as the April 6, 1987, pairing of Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler, with Canelo cast in the role of the terms-dictating Leonard.

“If Steph Curry don’t play in the playoffs, his team is probably not going to repeat as the champion,” Hopkins said. “Canelo is like Steph Curry to Golden Boy. Of course we’re going to position him in such a way to maximize all his assets. But in saying that, you got to remember one thing: We don’t need `Triple G.’ He needs Canelo. At the end of the day, the fighter that holds all the cards would be a fool not to use that.

“Look, Oscar has or might make some decisions he might be criticized for – no, he will be criticized for – but so what? He is in the business of being a promoter. As a fighter, he dared to be great. As a promoter, he can’t dare to be ******. He has to make the right business move for his fighter, and the fact is that `Triple G’ stands to gain more from winning that fight. Of course, if Canelo wins, he becomes even more of a megastar than he already is. But he’s a megastar already.

“There will be a dialogue, a negotiation, and when it happens `Triple G’ won’t be operating from a position of strength. Look, I can remember when I couldn’t get the fights I wanted for a lot of reasons. Some of it was political. Some of it was personal. When push comes to shove, though, you do what you have to do.

“When I was the (light heavyweight) champion, I had to take off five pounds to make the Winky Wright fight, the Kelly Pavlik fight. I had a catch weight fight with Oscar when I had three middleweight championship belts and Bob Arum (then De La Hoya’s promoter) said the only way that fight would ever happen is if I agreed to come in at no more than 158 pounds. I could have *****ed and hollered about sweating off the extra weight, but I wanted the fight to happen. Was the money great? Yes. But I wanted to fight the best, and if I beat Oscar, God only knows what could happen after that. And, well, we know now what happened next.”

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...most-happened-

[Motorcity Cobra]

Sure I do.. in May of 2020

This is quite baffling to the fight fans, GBP said they wont discuss Canelo's next fight until the court case is solved or discussed(or whatever word they used) but Warren is talking as if that's the fight Canelo is after & in reality there has been no offers from either promoters yet.. & still Loeffler says Gomez told him that they would discuss something next week about Canelo vs Golovkin..

I honestly don't think it is going to happen this year & GBP & K2 are only discussing if this can be done for May next year or sometime in future..

Canelo is going to beat Smith then go to 161 and make Zurdo fight him

[Motorcity Cobra]

Why are so many people surprised that Canelo vacated the belt? The wrting was on the wall a long time ago:

April 27, 2016:
Bernard Fernandez

The worst-case scenario – and it might yet play out – is for Alvarez to vacate the WBC middleweight title or be stripped of it, enabling him to return to the super welterweight division he once ruled and still considers to be more of a natural fit, should his oft-stated preference for the 155-pound catch weight represent a line in the sand neither he nor Golovkin is willing to cross to accommodate the other. Were that to happen, Golovkin could, of course, still bid for the WBC championship against whomever emerged as Canelo’s replacement, but winning it under those circumstances would be hollow satisfaction. Remember, when the IBF stripped Tyson Fury of its version of the heavyweight champion for not fulfilling his mandatory, that slot was filled by Charles Martin, a larger version of Dominic Wade. When last we saw Martin, his shaky grip on the IBF title was being ripped away by Anthony Joshua in much the same manner that Golovkin blew away Wade.

To his credit, or perhaps detriment, Golovkin places great stock in the concept of being the one and only king of the middleweights, and the first to hold the belts from all four major sanctioning bodies since Jermain Taylor scored a 12-round split decision over Hopkins on Dec. 3, 2005, laying claim to B-Hop’s WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO hardware in the process. Not since Hopkins and four-time former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield has any champion been so intent on rounding up as many world titles as possible in the same weight class and protecting them with the ferocity of a she-wolf guarding her cubs. The only problem with that philosophy is that sometimes one of the world sanctioning bodies orders a mandatory defense against someone with thin credentials and an artificially inflated record – someone, for instance, like Dominic Wade...

But Hopkins knows a thing or two about leverage, and as a key figure in the Golden Boy hierarchy he doesn’t want Golovkin’s inexorable march toward his record to include a conquest of Alvarez, 25, who is the linchpin to the company’s long-term success. If the big fight happens, and Hopkins hopes it will, all well and good. Still, the fight before the fight takes place behind closed doors where contractual matters are finalized. If there is a possible parallel between Alvarez-Golovkin, Hopkins sees it as the April 6, 1987, pairing of Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler, with Canelo cast in the role of the terms-dictating Leonard.

“If Steph Curry don’t play in the playoffs, his team is probably not going to repeat as the champion,” Hopkins said. “Canelo is like Steph Curry to Golden Boy. Of course we’re going to position him in such a way to maximize all his assets. But in saying that, you got to remember one thing: We don’t need `Triple G.’ He needs Canelo. At the end of the day, the fighter that holds all the cards would be a fool not to use that.

“Look, Oscar has or might make some decisions he might be criticized for – no, he will be criticized for – but so what? He is in the business of being a promoter. As a fighter, he dared to be great. As a promoter, he can’t dare to be ******. He has to make the right business move for his fighter, and the fact is that `Triple G’ stands to gain more from winning that fight. Of course, if Canelo wins, he becomes even more of a megastar than he already is. But he’s a megastar already.

“There will be a dialogue, a negotiation, and when it happens `Triple G’ won’t be operating from a position of strength. Look, I can remember when I couldn’t get the fights I wanted for a lot of reasons. Some of it was political. Some of it was personal. When push comes to shove, though, you do what you have to do.

“When I was the (light heavyweight) champion, I had to take off five pounds to make the Winky Wright fight, the Kelly Pavlik fight. I had a catch weight fight with Oscar when I had three middleweight championship belts and Bob Arum (then De La Hoya’s promoter) said the only way that fight would ever happen is if I agreed to come in at no more than 158 pounds. I could have *****ed and hollered about sweating off the extra weight, but I wanted the fight to happen. Was the money great? Yes. But I wanted to fight the best, and if I beat Oscar, God only knows what could happen after that. And, well, we know now what happened next.”

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...most-happened-

Because people believed what the media told them. They've been told for years that Mayweather is what's wrong with boxing. As soon as he retires boxing will be restored with the new stars, Canelo & GGG. Floyd has never pulled the BS that Canelo pulled. Dude created his own weight class and made a welterweight come up and fight him. A welterweight with no chin at that. Then pranced around the ring like he'd actually did something special when he KO'd him. I couldn't believe he was that proud of knocking out Khan.

[Bronx2245]

Because people believed what the media told them. They've been told for years that Mayweather is what's wrong with boxing. As soon as he retires boxing will be restored with the new stars, Canelo & GGG. Floyd has never pulled the BS that Canelo pulled. Dude created his own weight class and made a welterweight come up and fight him. A welterweight with no chin at that. Then pranced around the ring like he'd actually did something special when he KO'd him. I couldn't believe he was that proud of knocking out Khan.

All fighters are proud to get a KO. I just saw Larry Holmes stating that he was "happy" to fight Ali, even in his condition, because beating Ali meant fame and $3 million dollars. What Canelo should NOT have done, is invite GGG in the ring, and talked all that BS, and Oscar should NOT have allowed that to happen!

[Motorcity Cobra]

All fighters are proud to get a KO. I just saw Larry Holmes stating that he was "happy" to fight Ali, even in his condition, because beating Ali meant fame and $3 million dollars. What Canelo should NOT have done, is invite GGG in the ring, and talked all that BS, and Oscar should NOT have allowed that to happen!

Ali is not Khan. And even at that point in his career many people thought Ali had one more trick up his sleeve. The only thing in dispute about the Khan-Canelo fight was which round Khan would get knocked out.

I'm talking about his bravado after the fight. Acting tough because he was able to do at 155 what Prescott did at 135 & Garcia did at 140 while he had a 20lb weight advantage. Then he acts all tough but when it came down to prove he could do what no one else has been able to do he tucks tail.