Comments Thread For: Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier Feud Was Vicious, Lasted For Decades

[TX_BOXNG]

I think all of this is overlooked from Ali, obviously we shouldnt hold grudges or judge, he truly said really hateful stuff to Joe n George

[AllEyesOpen]

Ali would say whatever it took to sell the fight, Frazier shouldn't have let it get to him. That being said, RIP to 2 of the greatest HW.

[fredhopple]

Clay was a good fighter with a big mouth who was hated by all

Clay just had a big mouth and good skills and came along when boxing was dull and dry. Not defending your country is a crime and clay should have been inprisoned or exiled from the USA. Clay made a good living in boxing but actually hated all white Americans, No loss weep not and think of the brave kids who actually died for america in wars. Those dead kids are the real heroes.

[fredhopple]

Frazier had dignity while clay ali was all ignorance and hype

Clay was all low class when dealing with Frazier and clay's ignorance showed horribly at the poorer Frazier. Clay denigrated and humiliated Joe Frazier to extremes but Clay was hated anyway by most of america.

[MikeEhrmantraut]

its hard to believe a black person calling another black person a "gorilla".
Ali also called Floyd Patterson an "Uncle Tom"

[bojangles1987]

You really can't blame Frazier for the bitterness he felt for so long, even if he said some terrible things himself down the line. To say the things Ali said about him in that time, with so much racial tension, was plain wrong. Whether Ali meant it or not they were terrible.

Ali could talk anyone out of their game, but he only made Frazier stronger. That's a big part of what made Frazier such a perfect rival for him.

[Ham Porter]

Frazier was the real oppressed black man who along with MLK, Malcolm X and other boxers like Sugar Ray Robinson were the real civil rights heroes of their day. Muhammad was a spoiled arrogant bigot who literally did murder for the establishment and worshiped establishment mass murderer dictators. Ali was the OPPOSITE of a real man like Frazier. At least Muhammad came to terms with his mistakes somewhat. see Sucker Punch: The Hard Left Hook that Dazed Ali and Killed Kings Dream by Jack Cashill.

Go promote your book elsewhere, you cranky old dip****

I agree.

Muhammad Ali is The Greatest Coward and Hypejob of All Time

Just a fact. Just watch his fight in the studio with Joe Frazier. Frazier stands in front of him and Ali tells him to sit down because his nation of islam members are in the studio. When Frazier then is distracted by one of the brothers, Ali stands up and attacks him. Like the coward he was. His own people admit they fought Frazier a 3rd time out of cowardice, Joe was shot by that time, won only 5 of the last 10 fights of his career.

He won cause of hype, he won cause of cheating, he won because he threatened and accused judges. He painted every judge who chose against him in the first Frazier as a racist. Bill Recht once said that his wife was punched and he was attacked as a racist after picking Frazier. What judge would pick against Ali knowing he would pretty much tell Nation of Islam members and blacks to attack them?

He was consistently allowed to hold behind peoples heads, rabbit punch, and push. People say the Klitschko's clinch? Yeah...ok...Ali clinches at least twice as much.

Everyone knew the refs were crooked and allowed Ali to do this trash. The guy was a bum. Lost to Frazier 1, shoulda been dqed in Frazier 2, beat a wached up bum in Frazier 3. Lost all 3 Norton fights. Lost to Shavers and Young. Ali shows how Bum+Hype+Nations of Islam could make idiots think someone was the "greatest."

The 4 year "prime" layoff was a joke. First of all another example of cowardice. Second no one knows what would have happened during that time, that tiem off allowed the brain damage that Cooper laid on him to not be exposed as soon, also made him gain weight which helped his glass chin out.

The guy was a joke.

Guy's talking about "followers of the herd" in a previous post and he's just literally posted, word-for-word, a six year old quote:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=411436


Log off, you derivative f*ggot.

Clay just had a big mouth and good skills and came along when boxing was dull and dry. Not defending your country is a crime and clay should have been inprisoned or exiled from the USA. Clay made a good living in boxing but actually hated all white Americans, No loss weep not and think of the brave kids who actually died for america in wars. Those dead kids are the real heroes.

LOL @ "defending your country." You do realise that his 'service' would've been limited to boxing exhibitions, right? That was literally the easiest choice available.

[punchr]

Go promote your book elsewhere, you cranky old dip****






Guy's talking about "followers of the herd" in a previous post and he's just literally posted, word-for-word, a six year old quote:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=411436


Log off, you derivative f*ggot.






LOL @ "defending your country." You do realise that his 'service' would've been limited to boxing exhibitions, right? That was literally the easiest choice available.

That was my old account, numbskull. Slap yourself moron.

[LacedUp]

That was my old account, numbskull. Slap yourself moron.

You've copy and pasted the same post for 6 years? Damn life must suck for you.

[LacedUp]

I think all of this is overlooked from Ali, obviously we shouldnt hold grudges or judge, he truly said really hateful stuff to Joe n George

And George?

Like what?