Comments Thread For: Lara's Trainer: Golovkin Should Want To Test Himself Against Lara

[IMDAZED]

More excuses sounds like. How's Lara worse than Wade, Rubio? GGG always has a good fan base no matter who he fights. You GGG fans sound like you don't want your hero tested. Lara's awkward style would be a challenge... that is unless you want zero challenges. Otherwise, let's see how he does vs Lara.

It comes down to who will be available. I could understand GGG taking on Saunders over Lara although I wouldn't be as interested. I just think Lara is an ideal opponent for Golovkin now. What's disturbing to me is their silence regarding it. Maybe we're all being fooled and the Canelo fight gets done. One can only wish.

[PunchyPotorff]

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So what? One division north and he's there. And waiting. Any more excuses? You GGG fans act like they're beating down the door to get in the ring with him. Time to awaken and smell the coffee.

So maybe he should move into a division first before challenging its champion if he wants the public to take his challenge seriously.

Nobody is writing letters to have GGG fight Lara (well, you and a few others on boxingscene are...) and nobody outside of Lara's team thinks he will be a serious challenge to GGG. You can tell because nobody sees a path to victory for Lara that does not involve him miraculously never getting hit by GGG and never getting cornered in the process.

Lara does not even register as a threat to GGG by the general public. If they remember him at all it will be as the guy who ran from Alvarez all night. Hardcore fans will remember his fight with Angulo, and then will substitute Angulo for GGG in that equation and do the math.

AGAIN, One division north and he's there. What, is there some steel wall he has to blast through to get a MW title fight? Fighters do it all the time. Going back and forth between divisions is nothing new. And, if he's no threat (like Wade, Rubio, etc...) WHAT exactly are you afraid of? Were fans 'writing letters to have GGG fight' Wade, Monroe, Rubio, etc etc etc? Your argument is meaningless, that is unless you just admit you're afraid your idol gets bewildered by Lara. Which, for a few rounds at least, he would. I doubt Lara lasts 12, but he'd most likely last longer than Rubio, Wade, Ishida, Macklin, Geale, Simon. If you think it would be a Wade type fight, no challenge to your messiah, let's see it then. Geez, you GGG guys about P your pants scrambling for more and more lame excuses. Let the f ing fight happen, and we'll see how much of a wizard your wonder boy GGG is. SMDH

[champion4ever]

I agree 100% that Lara is blowing smoke. GGG does however, have a much bigger fanbase and box office power than Lara. He regularly sells out fights in the both the east and west coast, has signed a endorsement deal with the Jordan brand and recently threw a first pitch at a Dodgers MLB game! He is now regularly mentioned and discussed on top American sports shows (eg ESPN first take and PDI) He's slowly but surely crossing over the mainstream. Lara is extremely unknown to the vast majority of boxing fans and sports fan in general. Due to his fighting style, he will always have a hard time attracting fans to come to his shows

I understand everything you are saying. It's a know n fact, that GGG is a much bigger draw than Lara and has also been given a very substantial promotional push by HBO in order to attract a mainstream audience.

However, up until now those attempts have been futile. He is still a relatively unknown among casual fans.

Therefore he is going to need a big name ppv star to really crossover into the mainstream: Like a Canelo. Cotto, Pacquiao or a Mayweather but not an Erislandy Lara because history has shown that he cannot carry an entire PPV event on name recognition alone with just doing over 97,000 buys in pay per view sales.

He needs an excellent foil with a huge fanbase in order to attract a much broader audience. Also, the American boxing business model is much different than other markets around the globe. For instance, most of American boxing revenue (at least 90%) of it, comes from guaranteed Premium network television money like HBO and Showtime, while the other 10% comes from the live gate.

Therefore, promoters can afford to give tickets away or slash them exponentially to give the illusion that their fighter is a box office draw when in reality they are not.

[Vasyl’s dad]

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So what? One division north and he's there. And waiting. Any more excuses? You GGG fans act like they're beating down the door to get in the ring with him. Time to awaken and smell the coffee.



AGAIN, One division north and he's there. What, is there some steel wall he has to blast through to get a MW title fight? Fighters do it all the time. Going back and forth between divisions is nothing new. And, if he's no threat (like Wade, Rubio, etc...) WHAT exactly are you afraid of? Were fans 'writing letters to have GGG fight' Wade, Monroe, Rubio, etc etc etc? Your argument is meaningless, that is unless you just admit you're afraid your idol gets bewildered by Lara. Which, for a few rounds at least, he would. I doubt Lara lasts 12, but he'd most likely last longer than Rubio, Wade, Ishida, Macklin, Geale, Simon. If you think it would be a Wade type fight, no challenge to your messiah, let's see it then. Geez, you GGG guys about P your pants scrambling for more and more lame excuses. Let the f ing fight happen, and we'll see how much of a wizard your wonder boy GGG is. SMDH

So why doesn't lara just beat any middleweight to prove hes good enough for a GGG fight? It should be simple right, since hes such a sensation at 154 and just wipes everyone out. Why not just take on a tuneup at 160, put on a dazzling display of boxing wizardry, and show the world hes ready?

[Brakus]

I understand everything you are saying. It's a know n fact, that GGG is a much bigger draw than Lara and has also been given a very substantial promotional push by HBO in order to attract a mainstream audience.

However, up until now those attempts have been futile. He is still a relatively unknown among casual fans.

Therefore he is going to need a big name ppv star to really crossover into the mainstream: Like a Canelo. Cotto, Pacquiao or a Mayweather but not an Erislandy Lara because history has shown that he cannot carry an entire PPV event on name recognition alone with just doing over 97,000 buys in pay per view sales.

He needs an excellent foil with a huge fanbase in order to attract a much broader audience. Also, the American boxing business model is much different than other markets around the globe. For instance, most of American boxing revenue (at least 90%) of it, comes from guaranteed Premium network television money like HBO and Showtime, while the other 10% comes from the live gate.

Therefore, promoters can afford to give tickets away or slash them exponentially to give the illusion that their fighter is a box office draw when in reality they are not.

I agree that he needs a high profile client to push him into the mainstream. His team has done a remarkable job in boosting his profile. You're right- A fight with Lara does nothing for his effort to break the mainstream, a Canelo or possibly Jacobs/ Eubanks does. There is no Jr. middleweight/ Middleweight/ Super middleweight contender that is more popular in the boxing world, apart from Canelo than GGG (I'm primarily talking about the United States). He is a truly special fighter (all major boxing/ sports writers- Dan Raefal, Chris Mannix, Kevin Iole, Lance Pugmire have the highest praise for his skills/ style).

Let's hope he finds his foil soon

[jqSide]

"We're not negotiating thru the media," says Ellerbe.

"Amen!" says the floydhype fanboys in unison.

Here is Lara doing exactly the same thing, yet they're okay with it.

Does this Lara guy have no management team or what? He'd rather just talk to impress the media?

[PunchyPotorff]

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So what? One division north and he's there. And waiting. Any more excuses? You GGG fans act like they're beating down the door to get in the ring with him. Time to awaken and smell the coffee.

AGAIN, One division north and he's there. What, is there some steel wall he has to blast through to get a MW title fight? Fighters do it all the time. Going back and forth between divisions is nothing new. And, if he's no threat (like Wade, Rubio, etc...) WHAT exactly are you afraid of? Were fans 'writing letters to have GGG fight' Wade, Monroe, Rubio, etc etc etc? Your argument is meaningless, that is unless you just admit you're afraid your idol gets bewildered by Lara. Which, for a few rounds at least, he would. I doubt Lara lasts 12, but he'd most likely last longer than Rubio, Wade, Ishida, Macklin, Geale, Simon. If you think it would be a Wade type fight, no challenge to your messiah, let's see it then. Geez, you GGG guys about P your pants scrambling for more and more lame excuses. Let the f ing fight happen, and we'll see how much of a wizard your wonder boy GGG is. SMDH

So why doesn't lara just beat any middleweight to prove hes good enough for a GGG fight? It should be simple right, since hes such a sensation at 154 and just wipes everyone out. Why not just take on a tuneup at 160, put on a dazzling display of boxing wizardry, and show the world hes ready?

Why ask me? Ask him. As for good enough, GGG hasn't proven he's good enough really. Lemieux was his biggest challenge, and he can't really box all that well. The rest have been Wade caliber. And besides, you want another soft touch for your messiah anyway, so why complain? Should be a simple 1 rounder, eh? What are you afraid of? An actual challenge?

[Sweet_Science2]

Never called Canelo a duck. Lara can get in line. This is one of the shorter responses I'm going to give you, troll. Be happy about that.

Lara can get in line pussie g will never look his direction. Like I said you support a pussie. Who is scared to move up in weight, scared to fight Lara and is in one of if not the WORST divisions in boxing.

Just for the sake of ******* like you I;m glad Canelo is pushing lil g in line according to your ****** ass logic.

[AKAcronym]

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Lara wanting bigger money than expected, and lotta fans are bored by him and his style... sure is convenient though. His style would be a maze for GGG to figure out. So GGG can just let his people say it isn't worth it financially.

If that's the case, then why has no fighter looked good vs Lara?



Sounds like you wanna protect your hero. All I'm saying is let GGG fight any who would agree to fight him. And BTW it isn't a long list who want to get in the ring with him. That is, unless you're afraid your idol with get confused vs a slick awkward boxer.

And you come to that conclusion how? I never said anything of the sort. I said he wouldn't have a hard time figuring Lara out and that's what you come up with? We're done. You're dumb as ****.

[PunchyPotorff]

And you come to that conclusion how? I never said anything of the sort. I said he wouldn't have a hard time figuring Lara out and that's what you come up with? We're done. You're dumb as ****.

If I'm supposedly the ignorant one, then how do you keep making up excuses for Lara not fighting GGG, and yet not expect any logically thinking person to come to the conclusion that your motive is more excuses for your hero GGG? Newsflash: A person doesn't have to specifically say a certain thing for their words to be easily translated as such. You inferred it, not me. If you have no issue with Lara getting a shot vs GGG, then prove it by nixing any more excuses.