Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Andre Ward is The P4P Best, Could Lose To Kovalev

[bluebeam]

I'm not saying he isn't P4P #1 ... it's got to the point I don't care because in most weight classes we don't even get to see who is the best at that weight.

BUT >> since when did "showing what you are as a man" [whatever that means] , being a good athlete, having character and being a 'sportsman' figure into what makes up a p4P fighter? I'll go with a fighter's record and being a 'skilled fighter'. So that was 2 out of 6 then Paulie.

Malignaggi has flappy lips - he should think before he flaps.

But we are about to find out who is the best at 175

[kafkod]

How can you hate on a boxer that's taking on the toughest fighter in his division , I like ward I think he talks with respect and always handles himself well and if he doe's fight kovalev in September he deserves all the praise in the world and if he wins then he is the number 1 p4p fighter in the world......respect has to be given its that's simple and if he wins he earns that top spot :-)

IF Ward fights Kovalev in Sept, and IF he beats him, then yes, by all means, talk about him being the P4P king.

Too many people in the States and at this site are talking like those things have already happened though.

[j0zef]

did you even watch the fight? Those bruises were from headbutts


sit your simple azz down. Dude landed less than 20% and barely hit him clean with a power punch. stop reaching

of course his timing wasnt where he wants it to be, but do people criticize anyone else's defense when they have an opponent land 15%

only on NSB


WHY IS GGG TOP 3 P4P AND HE NEVER BEAT ANYONE ELITE? NOT 4 YEARS AGO OR 4 MONTHS AGO

Dude, you're bipolar. You go from posting intelligent, well thought out, reasonable arguments to becoming a 14 year old emo kid. Relax.

Yes, I watched the fight. Twice. During the fight, I was commenting on these very forums how insanely lumbering and slow Barrera looked.

There was one headbutt that caused the cut. Ward's face is marked up ALL over. Barrera landed a lot of jabs. The connect percentage is deceiving as well, since his workrate was almost double that of Ward. He knew Ward's defense is great, so he chose quantity over quality.

You didn't actually criticize anything I posted. So what exactly do you have a problem with?


And this thread is not about Golovkin, but about Ward.

[bluebeam]

Dude, you're bipolar. You go from posting intelligent, well thought out, reasonable arguments to becoming a 14 year old emo kid. Relax.

Yes, I watched the fight. Twice. During the fight, I was commenting on these very forums how insanely lumbering and slow Barrera looked.

There was one headbutt that caused the cut. Ward's face is marked up ALL over. Barrera landed a lot of jabs. The connect percentage is deceiving as well, since his workrate was almost double that of Ward. He knew Ward's defense is great, so he chose quantity over quality.

You didn't actually criticize anything I posted. You confirmed that his timing was off. So what exactly do you have a problem with?


And this thread is not about Golovkin, but about Ward.

Does getting marked up disqualify you from being p4p number 1?

Cause I remember pacquiao's face after the clottey fight. Didn't change my mind about pacquiao one bit.

A win is a win

[Nomadic]

Ward is doing what most boxing champs aren't doing, that's taking risk and challenging himself. You don't here that "if the money is right" or "the other fighter talk to much" or "let me clear out my division first" and "he need to build up his name then we can fight" lame excuses we been hearing lately.

Oh, and catch weight queens!

[therealpugilist]

Dude, you're bipolar. You go from posting intelligent, well thought out, reasonable arguments to becoming a 14 year old emo kid. Relax.

Yes, I watched the fight. Twice. During the fight, I was commenting on these very forums how insanely lumbering and slow Barrera looked.

There was one headbutt that caused the cut. Ward's face is marked up ALL over. Barrera landed a lot of jabs. The connect percentage is deceiving as well, since his workrate was almost double that of Ward. He knew Ward's defense is great, so he chose quantity over quality.

You didn't actually criticize anything I posted. So what exactly do you have a problem with?


And this thread is not about Golovkin, but about Ward.

The only decent punches Barrera landed were jabs, he got a few straight rights in when Ward was trying to time a check left hook.

You would have thought he was getting hit pretty good by your post. I was amazed Ward's D was as good as it was. Barrera was missing by millimeters.

I brought up GGG because you explained how Ward isnt p4p, cool. Some people dont even have him top 5 or top ten because of inactivity. Yet GGG is top 3 and never beat an elite fighter. If ward isnt #1 cool....but IMO he is currently the most skilled, versatile fighter in the game. p4p is becoming more about preference and your last few fights not overall ability and resume.

my point is at least we saw Ward beat elite guys...period....GGG hasnt and he is supposed to be top 3 p4p

[therealpugilist]

If GGG isn't top 3 P4P, and Andre is No1, why did he tell Loeffler he needed a couple of tune-ups before fighting a man so much smaller than him?

164.....killed it


how can someone who was inactive 2 years be expected to make a weight he hadnt made in years but he'd fight everyone else at 168?

[PunchyPotorff]

I'm not saying he isn't P4P #1 ... it's got to the point I don't care because in most weight classes we don't even get to see who is the best at that weight. BUT >> since when did "showing what you are as a man" [whatever that means] , being a good athlete, having character and being a 'sportsman' figure into what makes up a p4P fighter? I'll go with a fighter's record and being a 'skilled fighter'. So that was 2 out of 6 then Paulie. Malignaggi has flappy lips - he should think before he flaps.

"Malignaggi has flappy lips - he should think before he flaps"
~ Excellente... best one today by far.

[PunchyPotorff]

IF Ward fights Kovalev in Sept, and IF he beats him, then yes, by all means, talk about him being the P4P king.

Too many people in the States and at this site are talking like those things have already happened though.

There it is in black and white.

[Luilun]

Could lose will lose !