Do you consider Óscar de la Hoya a boxing legend?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You can't end a statement with "Had he got the decision over tito" when you begin it touting his wins over Whitaker and Quartey. Both were highly controversial. And that's what I mean by he doesn't have a clear-cut, decisive career-defining victory.

Well stopping arch rival vargas in a unification fight seems to be pretty career defining

[Kel1981]

He's up there somewhere, a brilliant fighter. Never liked him out the ring though, I think he's a boring c**t.

[IMDAZED]

Well stopping arch rival vargas in a unification fight seems to be pretty career defining

Yeah, you could say that. I think that's his best win. It's also the reason why I think he falls short of ATG status. Vargas isn't exactly HOF material as much as I like him. And though still young, was already on a downward slope. He never recovered from that brutal, brutal war against Tito and was damaged goods when he showed up for the Oscar bout.

[Reloaded]

Define a legend ?

Another one of those boxing conundrums like P4P ratings , nothing more than opinion polls .

[bigdunny1]

Considering that he's lost to every single major elite boxer besides Shane who i felt he beat.....no.....

Beat Whitaker, Chavez Twice, Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, Genaro Hernandez, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, and a roided out Vargas. But he didn't beat any elite boxers? SMH

And he was flat out robbed in the Trinidad fight and robbed in the Mosley rematch a fight in which Mosley admitted years later to avoid jail time that he cheated and roided up for. And likely was on roids for their first fight as well. Not to mention gold medal in the Olympics, won titles in 6 different weight classes, was on everyone's top 5 p4p lists for a decade straight, and fought everyone. He's literally got about 12 fights in his career where he faced someone who is currently in the HOF or will be a lock the first time they are on the ballot. Every fight the fans wanted he gave. You got fighters today who have not faced a single top 10 p4p ranked fighter at the age of 34. Oscar got like a dozen of those fights. Got fighters who at age of 34 have faced about 4 world champs. Oscar fought 26 world champs. think about that.

Of course he's a legend

[!! Shawn]

Considering that he's lost to every single major elite boxer besides Shane who i felt he beat.....no.....

The only fights where he was really beaten were the Hopkins and Pacquiao fights, everything else was close, including his fight with Floyd.

Then consider that he literally fought everyone, and not only did he fight everyone, he fought everyone at the peak of their prime, with the exception of the early part of his career when he was coming up and knocking off the old guard like Chavez Sr and Whitaker.

Even then Whitaker was still 40-1-1 and everyone knows that 1 loss was highway robbery and the draw vs Chavez was also highway robbery.

So he Basically fought an undefeated Whitaker.
Undefeated Ike Quartey
Undefeated Felix Trinidad
Undefeated Shane Mosley
Undefeated Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Undefeated Genaro Hernandez
Fernando Vargas
Absolute Peak Manny Pacquiao.

Consider that he did all of that as basically a one handed fighter.

Thats pretty legendary. Yeah he lost the big fights, because he took the big fights.

Styles make fights, and if you truly fight everyone at their best, you will lose.

Unless you are Roy Jones Jr.

[boliodogs]

As a boxer off his record no. As a very popular boxer who generated huge amounts of money and had a huge fan club and helped the popularity of boxing I would say he is a legend. He is better known to casual boxing fans than some boxers who were better than him in the ring. No doubt he created many new boxing fans including women.

[j0zef]

Considering what he accomplished inside and outside the ring, without a shadow of a doubt the man is a legend.

Very successful fighter with great reputation, good businessman and his name is known to everyone in the world.

[b00g13man]

I'd say so, but not an ATG.

[Reloaded]

I'd say so, but not an ATG.

Oscar could compete and win multiple WTs in any era in history , I feel he surely does qualify as an ATG , Oscar proved himself for real at different weights against real fighters , isnt that all he needs to be able to do .