American boxing is dead

[dan_cov]

Don't get me wrong they have a long history of amazing fighters but what has happened? Seriously. Come on America sort it out!

I put Shobox on last night. I've not seen a boring fight in that Cruiserweight division for the last 5 years. You could put my nan in with Usyk and it'd somehow be a good value scrap. 4 undefeated Cruiserweight contenders I was hyped to see who was going to go to to the next level and all I seen was headbutts & clinching. Literally more headbutts being thrown & clinches than punches. Pathetic.

Then it got me thinking of all their current fighters. Andre Ward bores me to tears at times but I can appreciate his skills. Apart from Ward what good fighters does America have right now or even exciting fighters?
Its all feather-fisted spoilers like not just a few most, if not all.

I'm not trying to bash American boxing, as a fan I am concerned. How do you go from Mike Tyson, Hagler, Holyfield, Bowe & all these beasts to whatever the hell you're producing right now?

All of them fight like they're in survival mode.

You've got Ward at LHW that is about it apart from what are a few prospects around light middle. Crawford, Thurman are knocking on the door we'll see in their next fights.

Is it todays trainers in America?
I know people will get butthurt over me pointing it out but surely they must see where I am coming from and be concerned because its terrible for the sport.

I think it might come down to finances as well.
Paying certain fighters excessively and others not enough. Never happen but I'd love to see a system in place also in other sports where your pay varies depending on your performances. I don't want to begrudge anybody of a payday but when you've got a great opportunity to raise your stock, you're getting paid well to fight well a nobody you probably should go out and look to make a statement or at least try.

About 5 years back America had the #1 in majority of the 17 divisions. They now have 0.
Bradley, Mayweather, Dawson, Steve Cunningham, Ward, Ortiz was there briefly, I think Rios was elevated when JMM moved up

I really do hope the '08 olympians are for real and are about to flood the world scene.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

It because New Era of Americans are soft. These dudes be scared to fight one on one when they have 20 homies who have their back so you gonna be alright they still scared lmfao.

[ИATAS]

[TheCell8]

Errol Spence has potential for greatness. I'm not seeing that in the others.

[TheBoxingXpert]

Mayweather. Ward. Wilder. Crawford. Nah, American boxing isn't dead.

[285Kid]

[Lester Tutor]

and you wonder why hyping up Wilder fighting across the pond wasn'T exciting enough...but we can casually pretend he doesn't exist

[dan_cov]

I hope Spence is legit. He looks promising but I'm sure not saying that based on beating a guy with no idea on how to fight a southpaw in Algieri that doesn't have a single win against a WW.

I personally think the vastly underrated Ponomarev will provide us with the answers. I think that could be a lot trickier fight than even say a Thurman or Porter.

[sicko]

Don't get me wrong they have a long history of amazing fighters but what has happened? Seriously. Come on America sort it out!

I put Shobox on last night. I've not seen a boring fight in that Cruiserweight division for the last 5 years. You could put my nan in with Usyk and it'd somehow be a good value scrap. 4 undefeated Cruiserweight contenders I was hyped to see who was going to go to to the next level and all I seen was headbutts & clinching. Literally more headbutts being thrown & clinches than punches. Pathetic.

Then it got me thinking of all their current fighters. Andre Ward bores me to tears at times but I can appreciate his skills. Apart from Ward what good fighters does America have right now or even exciting fighters?
Its all feather-fisted spoilers like not just a few most, if not all.

I'm not trying to bash American boxing, as a fan I am concerned. How do you go from Mike Tyson, Hagler, Holyfield, Bowe & all these beasts to whatever the hell you're producing right now?

All of them fight like they're in survival mode.

You've got Ward at LHW that is about it apart from what are a few prospects around light middle. Crawford, Thurman are knocking on the door we'll see in their next fights.

Is it todays trainers in America?
I know people will get butthurt over me pointing it out but surely they must see where I am coming from and be concerned because its terrible for the sport.

I think it might come down to finances as well.
Paying certain fighters excessively and others not enough. Never happen but I'd love to see a system in place also in other sports where your pay varies depending on your performances. I don't want to begrudge anybody of a payday but when you've got a great opportunity to raise your stock, you're getting paid well to fight well a nobody you probably should go out and look to make a statement or at least try.

About 5 years back America had the #1 in majority of the 17 divisions. They now have 0.
Bradley, Mayweather, Dawson, Ward, Ortiz was there briefly, I think Rios was elevated when JMM moved up

I really do hope the '08 olympians are for real and are about to flood the world scene.

Been hearing this for YEARS, US boxing will NEVER DIE! It is plenty of young American talent that most people haven't even seen yet that will rise and make noise. If you're not in America you just haven't see or heard of them yet because a lot of them are turning pro very young

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Errol Spence seems like he brings it in the ring. He doesn't run and knows how to be aggressive without taking a ton of punishment. I'm not a fan of Deontay Wilder, but he does get kos in the ring.

I think the trainers aren't doing their job, honestly. Most guys don't know how to cut off the ring or fight inside, simply because they aren't taught how to do so. Most walk straight in which is another big No-No. Many are either defense first boring or no defense at all, which is itself, pretty boring after a while.

I don't think American boxing is dead by any means, but it could use an injection.