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  • bigdunny1
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    #31
    Originally posted by stefl14
    Well anyone who says that is clearly ******. But Canelo really isn't special. Ignore the Mayweather fight and look at his other fights. The fights that Canelo has been in that would have been considered worthwhile other than Mayweather are Cotto, Lara and Trout. He did not dominate any of those fights and arguably lost against Lara, despite being the heavier man on each occasion. As I've said before, Canelo is a good fighter but not a special fighter. His hype doesn't match his talent. Canelo is probably 175 on fight night and let Khan outbox him for a few rounds for god's sake so to say he's not overrated is ridiculous. Canelo is an offensive fighter who didn't really hurt Cotto even though Pac, who weighs around 145-150 on fight night hurt Cotto a number of times and knocked him out.
    Hard to DOMINATE HOFers and top p4p ranked fighters you idiot. There are levels to this. But you wouldn't know about that because knocking out bums off the street like Wade means you will do the same to A list fighters who GGG refuses to face. LMAO

    For example Canelo beat Cotto right after Cotto just steamrolled Geale maybe the best win on GGG's entire pathetic resume. Spin it how you want Canelo has faced and beaten higher level competition the best fighters in the world. But GGG must be better because he wins in more dominate fashion against low level competition. Sorry I give more credence to wins against better fighters then beating no named bums like Wade.
    Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-08-2016, 07:13 AM.

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    • stefl14
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      #32
      Originally posted by bigdunny1
      He's got a better resume because he's taken on more challenges fighting a higher caliber of opponents then GGG yet he is the hype job? not the one who calls out other better fighters then turns around and instead fights guys like Wade who are not on any credible top 10 rankings for any weight who is a 100 to 1 underdog and who EVEN GGG ADMITED HE HAD NO IDEA WHO HE WAS BEFORE HE AGREED TO FIGHT HIM. No one even knows how GGG will look when he finally steps up in class and he shares the ring with a good fighter. That's a hypejob. Easy too look good facing C and D class fighters instead of A class fighers. Boxing is filled with examples of fighters who look like world beaters until they step up and get exposed. Still waiting for GGG to prove something in boxing. Canelo has already done that.
      Another thing. I will happily concede that GGG is a hypejob until he beats someone good. But that doesn't change the fact that Canelo is overhyped. No need to make this about GGG even.

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      • stefl14
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        #33
        Originally posted by bigdunny1
        Hard to DOMINATE HOFers and top p4p ranked fighters you idiot. There are levels to this. But you wouldn't know about that because knocking out bums off the street like Wade means you will do the same to A list fighters who GGG refuses to face. LMAO
        Lara and Trout aren't top p4p ranked fighters. You ignore the fact that Canelo is a 175lb on fight night fighter. Surely he should have smashed Cotto to pieces since Pac did, and Pac was less than 150 that night. A former flyweight ffs. For some reason you think I'm a GGG fanboy. I happen to think he beats Canelo but I couldn't care less. Call GGG an overhyped bum until he beats a top fighter. I won't argue with that. But it doesn't change the fact that Canelo is overhyped. Read carefully, I didn't say not good, I said overhyped. He has the same hype behind him as ATGs when his skillset means he will never be one.

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        • bigdunny1
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          #34
          Originally posted by stefl14
          Well, Canelo was hurt by Cotto's brother. I don't think that would ever happen to Golovkin. Golovkin has never even been buzzed or close to being down with over 250 amateur fights above his belt. Lets not act like GGG isn't skilled he won a silver medal for god's sake. Everyone rags on GGGs resume but without going up to 168, who could he have fought that he hasn't? He's avoided and Canelo is avoiding him like the plague too. Canelo is probably heavier than GGG on fight night, which makes his avoidance all the funnier. Besides, regardless of what is said about GGG, completely ignoring him, all my points stand. Canelo is the same size as Froch on fight night and fought Khan. If that's not suspect I don't know what is.
          Canelo was hurt by Cotto's brother when he was a frigging teenager you idiot. And to show you how much that matter he whooped the real Cotto and was never even hurt by him. Do you think lame bozo brother Cotto hits harder then real HOF Cotto? You sound like the idiots before the Cotto fought who brought this up and looked foolish when Cotto lost. Canelo didn't have a amateur career instead of fighting kids he was a kid fighting grown men. And so far he's beaten numerous fighters who had GREAT amateur careers and olympic winners. Khan is a perfect example. Amateurs ain't the same as the pros dip shyt. GGG has not fought any top PROS while Canelo has.
          Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-08-2016, 07:21 AM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            Again so Manny, Cotto, Oscar, Marquez, Mosley are not special? Then who is? That's basically the top10 of ESPN's top fighters of the last 20 years. These are all first ballot HOFers that you are labeling as not special. LMAO
            HOF doesn't mean ****, there's a ****load of irrelevant fighters in the HOF, in every sport. Some of those guys were great, that's it. Not special. Ali was special. Floyd is. Those other guys are mostly "just" great boxers, period. If they're special then what do you call Floyd who picked all these clowns apart? You gonna come up with some new bull**** category for him just to justify being able to call those other dudes special?

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              #36
              This is how bad you haters are. Canelo is a hype job now because at age 19 (the age most fighters are fight with head gear on against kids) he faced the bum brother Cotto who was a grown man 30 something and got stunned. Didn't get dropped just knees buckled for a sec. Then came back and knocked out this bum. But fighters like Spence who are 26 years old and fighting guys with double digit losses worse then bum cotto brother. But Canelo is the hype job? Like I said however you want to set up the rules and define a hype job if you are consistent you see that Canelo has done and proven more then most of the top active fighters today and damn sure more then any young fighter in his age bracket.

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              • STREET CLEANER
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                #37
                The only hype job around here is Khan. He has proven that every time he tries to step it up. He is a proven chinless dumb fighter. Does exactly what he is thought in the gym and cannot adjust beyond that

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                • bigdunny1
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bullrush
                  HOF doesn't mean ****, there's a ****load of irrelevant fighters in the HOF, in every sport. Some of those guys were great, that's it. Not special. Ali was special. Floyd is. Those other guys are mostly "just" great boxers, period. If they're special then what do you call Floyd who picked all these clowns apart? You gonna come up with some new bull**** category for him just to justify being able to call those other dudes special?
                  It makes Floyd better. Makes him the best of a alltime great group of fighters. The best fighter in the last 20 years. But that's like saying Tom Brady is special. But since Ben Rothisberger and Peyton Manning didn't win as much as him they are clowns and not special. These are all alltime greats we are talking about and by definition that makes them special in my book. Saying Cotto, Oscar, Marquez, Mosley, Manny are not special just because they lost to Floyd is just dumb. Again this is basically guys who are on everyone's top 10 fighters of the last 20 years. This is not water down HOFers these are no doubt first ballot HOFers. Only a handful of fighters were better then them during the last 20 years.

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                  • stefl14
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    Canelo was hurt by Cotto's brother when he was a frigging teenager you idiot. And to show you how much that matter he whooped the real Cotto and was never even hurt by him. Do you think lame bozo brother Cotto hits harder then real HOF Cotto? You sound like the idiots before the Cotto fought who brought this up and looked foolish when Cotto lost. Canelo didn't have a amateur career instead of fighting kids he was a kid fighting grown men. And so far he's beaten numerous fighters who had GREAT amateur careers and olympic winners. Khan is a perfect example. Amateurs ain't the same as the pros dip shyt. GGG has not fought any top PROS while Canelo has.
                    The fact that you have bought up Khan as Canelo beating a great amateur shows how little you know about boxing. This was one of the worst choices of opponent of all time. You also bought up Mosley in Canelo's wins earlier. Shows what you know. I bet you've never had a fight, whereas I've had about 80 so probably know a little more than you.
                    Last edited by stefl14; 05-08-2016, 07:51 AM.

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                    • gmc_rfc_06
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                      #40
                      Oh, look, you've made another thread about Canelo...

                      Let it go, mate.

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