LOL, Canelo is such a hypejob

[stefl14]

Hype job? He's 25 and already has one of the best resume's of any active fighter today and has fought almost a dozen world champs, literally like 15-20 top 10 ranked fighters fought and beaten multiple first ballot HOFers. Out of all the fighters who deserve the hype job label like fighters who are almost 30 and have not faced a single top 10 ranked fighter or guys who have been knocked out once they faced a top ranked fighter. Canelo keeps winning and is on everybody's top 10 p4p rankings at 25 is a hype job? GTFO you newbie. If I listed the names of hype jobs in boxing I can go 30 deep before I even dream of mentioning Canelo. You can't be a hype job when you have already beaten Mosley, Trout, Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, Cotto and your only loss is to Mayweather.

For example Spence who is super hyped right now is 26 OLDER then Canelo and hasn't faced a single top 10 ranked fighter yet but people are going nuts because he beat Aligeri the guy who Khan just beat and you see canelo laid out Khan. Damn the haters are out in full force

Okay let me spell this out for you. You claim he's beaten multiple first ballot hall of famers. In reality he's beat two in Mosley and Cotto, but if you count Mosley you are an idiot so lets say one of them wins is good. And although Canelo definitely deserved the nod, his fight with Cotto was competitive despite Cotto being much smaller. To add to this, Cotto was in the twilight of his career. It's still a good win, but lets keep a little perspective. Pacquiao caused a lot more damage to Cotto despite him weighing about 30 lbs less than Alvarez on fight night. In Canelo's signature fights, he either lost comprehensively (Mayweather completely embarrassed him despite weighing around 15 lbs less on the night) or had a very close fight (Lara, Trout). I'm not saying Canelo isn't good because he is, but his skills don't match his star power.

I want to make a serious point here. Canelo says he's too small for GGG yet Canelo came in at 172 on fight night against Trout and reportedly 174 against Angulo. So he was 172 at least when campaigning at 154 yet says he's not big enough for GGG, when GGG himself has been on the HBO scales at around 170. If anything Canelo looks bigger now. It's not unlikely that he's above 175 on the night, and he fought a chinny welter who used to weigh in on the hbo scales at 150 ish when he was at 140. To really put things in perspective, it is well known that Froch used to be about 172ish on fight night. Imagine how Canelo would do against Froch. Not very well.

[Disturbed]

Lot of people did expect him to do better against Khan, but he did get a crazy knockout here. But it was predicted by most and I guess lots of people dont like how Khan was comfortably winning before the knockout. But I guess the result itself matters the most

Canelo is still a young guy and improving. He has lots of hype behind him, perhaps little too much, I dont know, but officially he only has a one loss in his record and thats against Floyd Mayweather himself who wins against anyone anyways. He is an exciting guy to watch in the ring, has some good wins and great knockouts so naturally, hype comes with that

While Khan was winning, we shouldn't just critize Canelo about that but give credit to Khan. He is a fast little devil and has some fine combos and is a decent boxer, definitely. Shame about his defense and chin though, although this shot would have KO'd most fighters I believe

If Canelo takes the fight against GGG which everyone wants to see and if he wins, that would really prove us all that he indeed is a great, great fighter. Let us all just hope that it ends up happening. There are / always have been lots of fights in boxing that should have happened, but never did. Hopefully this wont be one of those...

[Bullrush]

so if you come up short against Floyd then you ain't special? Lord then like 5 of the best fighters in the last 20 years are just not special by that ****** logic. Including Manny, Cotto, Oscar, Mosley, Marquez all first ballot HOFers.

If you can't beat certain fighters no matter how many times you try, then yes you're not special.

[bigdunny1]

And how many HOFers has the bum beater GGG beat? This is your problem even if you twist Canelo's resume as hard as you like it still craps on GGG's because there is no consistent grading curve where you can tell me Wade, Lemiuex, Monroe, Rubio, Stevens are better fighters then Mosley, Trout, Lara, Cotto, Khan no matter how much you try. If you crap on these wins then by definition you are saying GGG fights bums because these are flat out a high caliber level of fighters then the names GGG has faced. Name the list of active fighters right now with a better resume then Canelo who is only 25 by the way. Here is a hint the list is not long.

[bigdunny1]

If you can't beat certain fighters no matter how many times you try, then yes you're not special.

Again so Manny, Cotto, Oscar, Marquez, Mosley are not special? Then who is? That's basically the top10 of ESPN's top fighters of the last 20 years. These are all first ballot HOFers that you are labeling as not special. LMAO

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Khan is a guy who 3 fights before was fighting at 140 lbs and known for his terrible defense, inability to handle the aggression of other 140 pounders. He has a good diverse resume but everyone knows his defense is among the worst.

Nothing was lucky about that shot. It was 100% guaranteed that's how the fight ended.

As to your overall point though, yeah it's pretty sad that Khan even won a round.

[stefl14]

And how many HOFers has the bum beater GGG beat? This is your problem even if you twist Canelo's resume as hard as you like it still craps on GGG's because there is no consistent grading curve where you can tell me Wade, Lemiuex, Monroe, Rubio, Stevens are better fighters then Mosley, Trout, Lara, Cotto, Khan no matter how much you try.

Canelo's resume is better than GGGs. Great. GGG still beats him. But Canelo so far has proved too scared to prove all of the people who think that, which is to say the vast majority of boxing fans, wrong. GGGs bad resume doesn't really help Canelo.

[bigdunny1]

Canelo's resume is better than GGGs. Great. GGG still beats him. But Canelo so far has proved too scared to prove all of the people who think that, which is to say the vast majority of boxing fans, wrong. GGGs bad resume doesn't really help Canelo.

He's got a better resume because he's taken on more challenges fighting a higher caliber of opponents then GGG yet he is the hype job? not the one who calls out other better fighters then turns around and instead fights guys like Wade who are not on any credible top 10 rankings for any weight who is a 100 to 1 underdog and who EVEN GGG ADMITED HE HAD NO IDEA WHO HE WAS BEFORE HE AGREED TO FIGHT HIM. No one even knows how GGG will look when he finally steps up in class and he shares the ring with a good fighter. That's a hypejob. Easy too look good facing C and D class fighters instead of A class fighers. Boxing is filled with examples of fighters who look like world beaters until they step up and get exposed. Still waiting for GGG to prove something in boxing. Canelo has already done that.

[stefl14]

Again so Manny, Cotto, Oscar, Marquez, Mosley are not special? Then who is? That's basically the top10 of ESPN's top fighters of the last 20 years. These are all first ballot HOFers that you are labeling as not special. LMAO

Well anyone who says that is clearly ******. But Canelo really isn't special. Ignore the Mayweather fight and look at his other fights. The fights that Canelo has been in that would have been considered worthwhile other than Mayweather are Cotto, Lara and Trout. He did not dominate any of those fights and arguably lost against Lara, despite being the heavier man on each occasion. As I've said before, Canelo is a good fighter but not a special fighter. His hype doesn't match his talent. Canelo is probably 175 on fight night and let Khan outbox him for a few rounds for god's sake so to say he's not overrated is ridiculous. Canelo is an offensive fighter who didn't really hurt Cotto even though Pac, who weighs around 145-150 on fight night hurt Cotto a number of times and knocked him out.

[stefl14]

He's got a better resume because he's taken on more challenges fighting a higher caliber of opponents then GGG yet he is the hype job? not the one who calls out other better fighters then turns around and instead fights guys like Wade who are not on any credible top 10 rankings for any weight who is a 100 to 1 underdog and who EVEN GGG ADMITED HE HAD NO IDEA WHO HE WAS BEFORE HE AGREED TO FIGHT HIM. No one even knows how GGG will look when he finally steps up in class and he shares the ring with a good fighter. That's a hypejob

Well, Canelo was hurt by Cotto's brother. I don't think that would ever happen to Golovkin. Golovkin has never even been buzzed or close to being down with over 250 amateur fights above his belt. Lets not act like GGG isn't skilled he won a silver medal for god's sake. Everyone rags on GGGs resume but without going up to 168, who could he have fought that he hasn't? He's avoided and Canelo is avoiding him like the plague too. Canelo is probably heavier than GGG on fight night, which makes his avoidance all the funnier. Besides, regardless of what is said about GGG, completely ignoring him, all my points stand. Canelo is the same size as Froch on fight night and fought Khan. If that's not suspect I don't know what is.