Nicholas Walter finally speaks on Lomancheko fight

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  • Loque-san
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    #11
    Lomachenko and Walters should have been offered 650k each and we had a fight.

    Instead we get Lomachenko-Martinez, a fight nobody asked for, and Walters has no fight scheduled.

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    • brettWall
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      #12
      One to two years from now the days of overpaying fighters will be over. Who would be crazy enough to invest in fights that don't guarantee a return in investment?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Dr Rumack
        Walters and Rigo are chalk and cheese. People actually want to watch Walters.

        In any case Russell fought Lomachenko for $400k so I don't think $550k is so terrible. If he wants more, fair enough. Maybe he'll get it in time.
        Maybe but Walters isn't a ticket seller and neither is Loma. They may make great TV fights, but, like GGG, seats have to be relatively cheap to fill the arena, so no money is made.

        Given the tax situation Walters explained (Arum has to know this as well) then it is a bogus deal.

        Originally posted by about.thousands




        Thanks.

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        • Dr Rumack
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          #14
          Originally posted by sicko
          I guess credit goes to Loma manager Egis Klimas, he is doing something right to get his Client with less than 10 Total Pro Fights paid well.

          The frustration needs to be directed at Promoter here not the fighters. If we want the best to fight the best, we can say it is OK to Lowball them for what is suppose to be Big Fights. BOTH need to be paid well for that match up! If Loma was getting lowballed I would say the exact same thing!
          What's a reasonable purse?

          Loma-Russell had a $1m purse (60-40 Loma)

          Gonzalez-Russell had a $850k purse (60-40 Jhonny)

          Mares-Gonzalez had a $1m purse (90-10 Mares)



          The total purse being put up for Loma-Walters is bigger than all of those, and Walters is making more than Jhonny and almost as much as Lomachenko did against Russell.

          I don't blame Walters for wanting more money for the risk, every fighter does. But this isn't some outrageous low ball. $1.4m is a big purse for a fight in those weight classes and $550k isn't some shitty payday.

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          • killakali
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            #15
            Originally posted by about.thousands
            He wanted to be paid almost as much as Lomachenko in case he got robbed against a Top Rank fighter for the second time in a row. You've been watching boxing long enough to know that when you fight a Top Rank fighter on a Top Rank card you have to KO Top Rank A-sides because you not getting the decision. Floyd talked about Arum sending fighters away with an L, years ago. Mikey was smart enough to hold out, keep his 0, and get his freedom
            walters is a top rank fighter and was the a side in his last fight and got stuck with a draw that pissed arum off.

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            • about.thousands
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              #16
              Originally posted by killakali
              walters is a top rank fighter and was the a side in his last fight and got stuck with a draw that pissed arum off.
              He's co-promoted. Sosa had just signed with Top Rank a couple months before the fight. He's also co-promoted. Loma is full Top Rank
              Last edited by about.thousands; 05-03-2016, 12:25 PM.

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              • SouthPawHitman
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                #17
                Walters scared. If you're scared say you're scared. If you're scared get a dog.

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                • HI-TECH Boxing
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                  #18
                  I don't know why people keep bringing up the possibility of Walters getting "robbed."
                  You guys really do think Lomachenko is that liked/favored?
                  Lomachenko almost got robbed against Russell!
                  Lomachenko didn't get the decision against Salido! Of course Loma haters want to act as if Salido completely whooped and dominated him, but it was a close fight that could have gone either way. And guess what? They didn't give it to the supposed "Golden Boy." The referee let Salido get away with all kinds of fouling. People with agendas want to act like Salido dominated him.

                  As a Loma fan I'm going to be worried when and if he fights Valdez and Verdejo. Loma is going to have to dominate both to get the decision and even then he may not get it. And of course people won't care, because Lomachenko is not as liked as you people want to think.
                  I remember before Loma turned pro I was having a conversation with another Loma fan and he told me that he thinks Loma will get robbed and/or not get the close decisions throughout his career. I didn't believe him back then, but now I know what he meant.

                  If Walters was champion I would say he does deserve 50-50, but he's not champion. It's not like Loma was going to challenge him. Loma was sacrificing more, whether you people like it or not, to make the fight happen. One of the reasons why Loma was getting more is because he has a higher guarantee, if I'm not mistaken. That depends on the contract they sign. Top Rank offered Loma a good contract so he could turn pro with them. Why is it a problem? You don't like that Loma was able to get himself a great contract and a good guarantee of money?
                  Since it's Loma people don't like it, but I bet people are happy as heck that other fighters that were less accomplished sign great contracts for themselves. Since it's Lomachenko though, it's a problem.

                  Lomachenko was willing to take 650K, say what you want, but Loma was willing to take less than what he made last time to fight a more dangerous opponent. You guys can keep blaming it on Loma if it makes you sleep better. Loma is moving on and he should. Walters has wasted a lot of his time.
                  You guys hate the fact that Walters made you believe that Loma was running scared and it turned out to be wrong.

                  I don't hate Walters just because a few of his fans are annoying. That's a dumb mentality to have. Especially since EVERY fighter has fans like that. If Walters feels like he deserves more then fine. I have no problem with that. I don't think Walters is scared of Loma and Loma is not scared of Walters. If Walters wants this fight to be worth more then he should try to get another title so he and Loma could unify.

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                  • M Bison
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                    Dude, Lomachenko lost a decision to Salido in his second fight.
                    That fight was clearly fixed, no man should have to be punched that many times below the belt even with all the low blows and blatant fouls by Salido the fight was very close but as said the constant low blows and dirty wrestling should have seen Saldio DQed.

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                    • PK3434
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by about.thousands
                      He wanted to be paid almost as much as Lomachenko in case he got robbed against a Top Rank fighter for the second time in a row. You've been watching boxing long enough to know that when you fight a Top Rank fighter on a Top Rank card you have to KO Top Rank A-sides because you not getting the decision. Floyd talked about Arum sending fighters away with an L, years ago. Mikey was smart enough to hold out, keep his 0, and get his freedom
                      Stop...You don't always have to pick the anti-top rank, hbo side.

                      This is exactly what it is...Walters did not believe he could beat Lomachenko.

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