Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: I'm Not a Fan of Golovkin, I Respect Canelo

[_Maxi]

Golovkin and his team FULLY understand the risk of a fight with Ward. They understand that Andre is the better fighter while also being the bigger man. The deck would be stacked against them and they would likely lose, possibly having Gennady exposed in the process.

Why is this so hard for Bumlovkin fans to admit?

Bigger man, yes. Bigger fighter, no. GGG doesn't need clinch and headbutts on difficult matches to survive. GGG wins clearly. If GGG loses to Ward it's mainly cuz of size.

[Scipio2009]

Coach,this is canelo resume on paper.
Decision win against an ancient Mosley.
Close decision against trout.
Razor thin decision against Lara.
Ko of a shell of angulo.
Ko of a shell of Kirkland without Anne.
Decision of a past prime,undersized cotto.
Complete whitewash against mayweather.
Now a catchweight fight against a chinny guy who isn't even among the 5 best,2 weight classes under.Every time that canelo has gone up against decent opposition that isn't past prime or undersized,its been close decisions,or white washes. There's really nothing to admire,and ward is only saying that to spite golovkin.

who has Golovkin fought who was even at the level of an "ancient" Mosley? lol

[The Big Dunn]

thats a matter of opinion........

Seriously, Terry. The first part we know is true. I know you love GGG but come on.

[daggum]

this is to bigdunn who thinks floyd's 40 millino offer to pac was a good offer and yet ward's offer to ggg was legit

you claim pac ducked by not acceptin 40 millino but a floyd-pac fight for 50-50 or anywhere close to 50-50 was also floyd's biggest payday so according to your own logic floyd ducked? you can't even see that you are starting and framing all your arguments with an inherent bias?

here's the difference betwen teh situations. first of all being an a-side gives you more negotiating power it doesn't give you total power. floyd getting 10 times more than pac is not reasonable. you know this. saying it is pacs biggest payday and he should have taken it makes you look so oblivious to the fact that any reasonable offer was also floyd's biggest payday but your bias prevents you from seeing that. floyd made a terrible offer and pac rejected it. ward made a terrible offer and ggg rejected it. just because a guy rejects an offer doesn't mean he is the ducker. for example if baldomir offered floyd 50-50 and to fight in 15 months that would not be a duck if floyd said no lets be realistic. you have to look at the details which you fail to do. lets break down the details.
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you tried to say ggg-ward was ggg's biggest payday and that it was a duck. this is not even true since we don't know the financials of that fight because the fight would have happened in late 2016 and ggg was set to fight canelo-cotto winner which is a much bigger fight before that. you wanted ggg to stall his career and take a bad deal while possibly jeapordizing his biggest payday in the process. not reasonable. usually fights aren't setup 15 months in advance and at a 50-50 split when one guy is much more popular. you know this.

ward on the other hand turned down bute and a career high payday in favor of....oh yea he had no better options. he said but wasn't wothy. hence a duck. same with the froch rematch. most money and the best fighter he could have faced and instead he tried to fight guys like sartison and periban? and you are trying to compare that to ggg fighting canelo instead of waiting 15 months for ward? seriously? you don't see the difference? blind.

[xhiddenx87]

all I could read was Boo boo booo

Man, give it up. You are butthurt, after the Barrera fight you made that clear.

[Nightfall]

all I could read was Boo boo booo

Man, give it up. You are butthurt, after the Barrera fight you made that clear.

looks like you're the one thats butthurt. you're not accepting the truth for some reason

[The Big Dunn]

this is to bigdunn who thinks floyd's 40 millino offer to pac was a good offer and yet ward's offer to ggg was legit

you claim pac ducked by not acceptin 40 millino but a floyd-pac fight for 50-50 or anywhere close to 50-50 was also floyd's biggest payday so according to your own logic floyd ducked? you can't even see that you are starting and framing all your arguments with an inherent bias?

here's the difference betwen teh situations. first of all being an a-side gives you more negotiating power it doesn't give you total power. floyd getting 10 times more than pac is not reasonable. you know this. saying it is pacs biggest payday and he should have taken it makes you look so oblivious to the fact that any reasonable offer was also floyd's biggest payday but your bias prevents you from seeing that. floyd made a terrible offer and pac rejected it. ward made a terrible offer and ggg rejected it. just because a guy rejects an offer doesn't mean he is the ducker. for example if baldomir offered floyd 50-50 and to fight in 15 months that would not be a duck if floyd said no lets be realistic. you have to look at the details which you fail to do. lets break down the details.
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you tried to say ggg-ward was ggg's biggest payday and that it was a duck. this is not even true since we don't know the financials of that fight because the fight would have happened in late 2016 and ggg was set to fight canelo-cotto winner which is a much bigger fight before that. you wanted ggg to stall his career and take a bad deal while possibly jeapordizing his biggest payday in the process. not reasonable. usually fights aren't setup 15 months in advance and at a 50-50 split when one guy is much more popular. you know this.

ward on the other hand turned down bute and a career high payday in favor of....oh yea he had no better options. he said but wasn't wothy. hence a duck. same with the froch rematch. most money and the best fighter he could have faced and instead he tried to fight guys like sartison and periban? and you are trying to compare that to ggg fighting canelo instead of waiting 15 months for ward? seriously? you don't see the difference? blind.

I never said either. I asked you a specific question-since you posted several times that rejecting the highest offer you get in your career is a duck why didn't you post same GGG turned down Ward. I then asked why you didn't say this about the $40 mil offer Floyd made to Manny.

I am not stating anything. Just asking you why you have a different standard for different fighters, a question you keep avoiding.

Then you deflect and make up something I didn't say because you see the error in your logic. You made the claim about ducking, not me. You then say I am biased because I point out the flaws in your argument.

As I said earlier I can only answer questions regarding what I posted, not what you make up.

[Kris Silver]

I like Ward and am sure there's a bit of blame on both camps and guys for a deal not being able to be made.

Ward was fairly classy here, but if he really was that messed around...wouldn't he actually be more annoyed?

That and his inactivity to be honest hints to me Gokovkin wants to get in and fight names, and it's almost 'popular' to duck him with weight reasons.

[hitking]

GGG doesn't seem to be well respected in the boxing community. And for good reason. The guy is a joke. His handlers and supporters chalk it up to jealousy. But there's really nothing to be jealous of. The guy's resume is a joke. He's constantly calling out smaller guys. And wants nothing to do with likely the one of only two guys within two weight divisions that would be favored to beat him. That makes him a clown.

P.S.

No need to make claims that Ward is two divisions above him as a reason the fight shouldn't happen. Mr Sanchez is on record, on video saying GGG would fight Carl Froch at 172. I'm sure Ward would love to fight him at 172. But GGG is too busy calling out retired welterweights.

[sirron000]

I remember similar arguments being made about Pac-Oscar, and we see how that one played out.......

Ward aint shot like ODH and GGG isn't as good as Manny.

One Punch is the right name for you because it only takes one punch to knock your a$$ out after every one of your slurping post.: