Comments Thread For: 'Fighting Words' - How One Scorecard Ended Judge Lloyd Scaife's Career

[MC Hammer]

There's a reason that the commission has old judges, and its money. The job doesn't pay well enough for an able bodied individual to waste a Saturday doing, and usually judges or refs are former amateurs, less amateurs less judges. It is what it is. Bad judging is going to happen in a subjective sport like boxing.

[Snoop Frog]

Boxing needs to change its judging system. Adding two judges, to make it five total, and dropping the most skewed score would make it harder for one bad judge to ruin the outcome. There's probably a better solution, but too many fighters have lost opportunities because of bad judges.

[Shadoww702]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
Williams/Lara (thankfully, those judges were at least suspended).



Yes, I don't know the duration, but NJSACB suspended all 3...

http://www.boxingscene.com/paul-will...spended--47879

Yeah but that didn't stop Lara from losing his 0. I REALLY didn't like how the ref. Screwed over Maidana in their rematch. EVERY time Maidana even THOUGHT about punching Floyd, Bayless was right there in between them. Maidana had ZERO chance in that fight with Bayless being SO EAGER to break them up even WHEN Maidana had one arm free. Wouldn't even give Maidana any cance to work ANY inside game plan.

I like Floyd but he didn't need Bayless help to win. Every time I bring this up EVERYone always brings up the 1st fight on how Maidana was allowed to Mug Floyd.

[Shadoww702]

This BUM should lose his license. I don't give a SHT about how good you USED to be. Your only as good as your last bout. No sense letting him continue to keep F'ing up. If Ortiz would of lost because of him that could of SERIOUSLY messed with his future $$$$ and career.

What needs to happen to bad judges is to go in front of a review board. Present medical documentation your fit for judging. Then require them to sit live and unofficially score at LEAST 3-4 fights. Review their scorecard and if fair let them judge on a case by case basis. But NO big or championship fights for awhile. Probably at least a year if it was that bad...

[ИATAS]

Were they? Great to know. That one always bothered me (not a Lara fan but an injustice is an injustice).

Yes and I think a lot of it had to do with us fans. I remember on the message boards people were posting the commissions phone number and email and a ton of us called/emailed to complain. Without that public outcry perhaps nothing happens. We should always try to that as fans imo

[SteveM]

There's a reason that the commission has old judges, and its money. The job doesn't pay well enough for an able bodied individual to waste a Saturday doing, and usually judges or refs are former amateurs, less amateurs less judges. It is what it is. Bad judging is going to happen in a subjective sport like boxing.

How much money do they make? Surely there is enough money to pay them a few hundred bucks per night and maybe much more. Should be plenty of people willing to do a half day's work for $500. I would. I'd do if for expenses though.

[Guest]

mayweather was right all along.

"HBO need to fire your old ass"
"Out with the old, in with the new"
"it's time to give these young hungry lions a chance"

Thank God you posted that...... for a horrible minute there I thought a thread would go two replies without someone mentioning Manny or Floyd.

Well done you.

[Guest]

by David P. Greisman - The problem, Lloyd Scaife soon recognized, is that he hadn't initially realized there was a problem. And at that moment, barely minutes after the fight he'd been scoring from ringside was over, so too was the career of the 85-year-old boxing judge.
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Excellent article, you have to feel for that man.

Though I wouldn't like to be that ref the next time they play chess together after Scaife reads that quote.

[Shadoww702]

How much money do they make? Surely there is enough money to pay them a few hundred bucks per night and maybe much more. Should be plenty of people willing to do a half day's work for $500. I would. I'd do if for expenses though.

I would do it for FREE just for the BEST seats in the house they get. They litterly can hear and almost feel the shots being landed. This old dude practically admits he dosed off.

[MC Hammer]

How much money do they make? Surely there is enough money to pay them a few hundred bucks per night and maybe much more. Should be plenty of people willing to do a half day's work for $500. I would. I'd do if for expenses though.

According to this about 150 a match or 25K a year is average:

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/boxing-referee-judges-salaries/

You can't live off that in a cheap state like GA let alone a Washington D.C.

My fault this is for Refs...for judges its similar with between 20-40K 40 probably going to PPV judges

http://www.ehow.com/info_8632384_boxing-judge-salaries.html