I absolutely love Spence, but why the double standard?

[Dr Rumack]

Spence calls out guys that he knows Haymon won't put him against.
Imagine Spence against someone who could punch or brawl.. Dude is a brutal KO waiting to happen

Fighting flat-footed in an aggressive manner isn't a problem once you make sure you're American when you do it.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Well if he manages to be around for longer and to make himself a bigger name in the meanwhile then all power to him, I personally don't see it happening, the only way this guy is getting more popularity is by fighting someone with a name, ALL great fighters took risks and made sacrifices to get that big name fight, Hopkins moved DOWN to 156 depite being a bigger MW than GGG to fight Dela Hoya, Pacquiao moved up for the bigger fights, Duran jumped 12 pounds to fight Leonard, they didn't wait for sanctioning bodies to hand them vacated titles that won't do their careers any good and that's what people expect from someone with the talent and hype that GGG has, I really want to see this guy become the big dog in boxing because he deserves it, but he has to follow in the footsteps of greats if he wants to be one.

At what age did Hopkins move down t fight Oscar at 157? What middleweights did GGG choose to not fight? What two blown up welterweights does he need to fight to become a legend like Hopkins at middleweight? What two guys should he fight three more times to equal Hopkins fights with Echols and Allen? After you answer these questions, maybe then you will realize how far along he already is. But answer the questions first.

[NearHypnos]

You are a psycho Golovkin fan. Golovkin is 34 and never fought a top 60 p4p fighter.

You saw the names Ward and GGG and no obvious compliments to Ward and the salt just started stinging and the assumptions just came? You don't actually have any idea what I posted, do you? I can tell by that avy where you went wrong though. I'm sorry for your loss. I didn't say anything bad about Ward. Rest easy...?


Top 60 p4p? Wtf, man.

[emre belozoglu]

In fairness Golovkin was getting the credit but he hasnt upped his levels this last while, he needs to start forcing some interseting fights he has fought good fighters but not the best in the division fighting Wade does nothing for him. its not all his fault but he would need to start trying a bit harder, if spence is still fighting people like algeiri in a year or two people will start getting sick of it

[Zaroku]

Nobody is crowning him. I see he's got talent an am.excited to see him with the other welters and possibly super welters or junior welters. GGG is 34 and has a prospect's resume.

Awesome sig pic!!!

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Career wise GGG has already had a nice career at MW. He's done more than Geale, Sturm, Quillin, etc. Basically, outside of Sergio Martinez he's been by far the most prolific MW since. The Ward callout is completely irrelevant. He fought recently for the first time in what seemed like ages. Anyone who takes a non-active fighter's side on wanting a smaller man to move up for him and give up all advantages is silly. People want GGG to fight Ward but we can't even get Ward to face someone in his own weight class without "tune ups"....not that I didagree though..but yeah. Stop, please. Ward and GGG was never going to happen. Ever. We can go back and forth for ever "oh but GGG said he'd fight at 168" or "oh GGG needs to test himself and move UP to 68 (contradiction...) ", "on but GGG has never been at 168 and Ward has fought at both 160 and light heavy!" Every excuse is ******ed. GGG is too small. Ward is too big. They've always been at LEAST 8 pounds away with only Ward having cleared his division.


Spence is an up and comer in his weight division. GGG is the best in his. But there is that bit of double standard... Geale, Lemieux, Martin are SIGNIFICANTLY better at MW than Algieri is..well...anywhere. GGG only gets called a hype job by insecure Ward fans. Not sure why, since Ward is an amazing talent in a different division but it happens. The psycho GGG fans act like GGG already beat every great fighter to ever exist also.

I think this post sums it up very nicely. I'm a GGG fan, but obviously I want to see him in with better opposition. I'm not so sure that his not so great opposition is all his fault though, either. His team may have let some fights go they shouldn't have and well, Martinez, Cotto and others have ducked him. So it is frustrating to say the least and I want the Canelo fight next for sure, but like you say, he's beaten down lots of guys who are batter than Algieri. He has won by KO 21 times in a row. That is impressive no matter who you fight, but he's done so against mostly world-ranked opposition. And let's not forget that Hopkins didn't face any great opponent until Trinidad outside of Jones who he lost to. When you're not a name, you really have to pay your dues before another name will get in there with you. It's unfortunate, but it is boxing. Everyone wanted to fight Mayweather for the money and the fact that he couldn't punch. But GGG rolls over opponents with his power and doesn't get hit clean much at all in the process. He hardly loses a round. And the money is not that great. I really do wish he was 24 instead of 34, but he is a young 34 since he's never been in any wars. So who knows? But maybe after Wade, we see him in with some better talent.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Hopkins is the perfect comparison. Ignored for the most of a decade until DiBella got him into Don King's middleweight tournament. When he got his chance against the superstar that was Tito he took it. But what? That was ok for Hopkins but not for Golovkin? Why? Because he's a foreigner?

NO!

Because GGG is already old!

Hopkins got the Trinidad fight when he was only 36!

So ha!

Oh.

Wait a minute...

[just the facts]

Spence looked sensational in dispatching Chris. Used an array of punches, fought outside, fought inside, went upstairs, went downstairs, he was really impressive. Now people are ready to crown him, including myself. I have an old thread calling him the future of the sport.

But here is the double standard. GGG has been looking sensational for the last few years in dispatching opponents. Fighting from the outside, inside, going upstairs, going downstairs, cutting off the ring, using array of punches but yet people say GGG is a hype job, over rated, he is nothing but Kelly Pavlik or Arthur Abraham.

I don't get it? Help me understand the logic?

The difference is that Spence is only viewed as a prospect. Given his resume, that is just. On the other hand, g string fans would have you believe that he is an ATG and top ten p4p without fighting even one quality opponent

[Biolink]

One is a prospect and one is a world champion with numerous title defenses. 5 or 6 years ago there wasn't much criticism.

Now if Spence goes on a streak of underwhelming opposition I guarantee you the criticism will come.

Spence is too old to be considered a "prospect" at this point.

It's enough to say he's still young in his career, which is why he hasn't had any big fights.

GGG on the other hand has no excuse, especially when someone like Lara has been calling for him.

[mathed]

Spence looked sensational in dispatching Chris. Used an array of punches, fought outside, fought inside, went upstairs, went downstairs, he was really impressive. Now people are ready to crown him, including myself. I have an old thread calling him the future of the sport.

But here is the double standard. GGG has been looking sensational for the last few years in dispatching opponents. Fighting from the outside, inside, going upstairs, going downstairs, cutting off the ring, using array of punches but yet people say GGG is a hype job, over rated, he is nothing but Kelly Pavlik or Arthur Abraham.

I don't get it? Help me understand the logic?

Trump did it. His campaign run has caused this massive tidal wave of racism that has trickled over into the boxing world. Since GGG is white looking, he is the Trump of boxing, he must be taken out at all costs, his existence is racist.