Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua Demolishes Martin in Two, Captures IBF Crown

[gmc_rfc_06]

Eubank is another guy who got passes because of his father but really isn't that good. He wings wide and got beaten by Saunders who basically just threw jabs. A jab was enough to beat the man. Yes he's improved but if it wasn't for his father he'd be talked about as a contender and nothing else, with everyone knowing he'd never be a truly world class fighter.

Shawn Porter is a decent though not great win, but it's Kell Brook's only notable win. And Brook spent 10 bloody years beating nobody's in England before that. 10 years wasted. Since then he's fought three absolute bums. I don't care who is ducking him, the three fighters he picked shows exactly what type of man he is, a man who won't fight anybody but scrubs unless it's for big money.

Eubank got a boost due to his name, yeah. So what? It means nothing if you can't fight.

A very raw and one dimensional version made a big step up before he was technically ready or experienced enough to do so and lost in a close fight to a guy who is now a world champion. He has improved tremendously since then in every department and I think he'd beat Saunders comfortably in a rematch. He is clearly a world level fighter and will win a world title soon.

Kell Brook doesn't get to pick mandatories, that's the IBF. Both Dan and Bizier were mandatory opponents who he had to fight. Only Gavin was a voluntary and it was a late decision for a stay busy fight instead of sitting out for 6 months.

[G_Child_123]

Martin came into this fight as a bit of an unknown quantity for me.

The only bouts I'd seen him in were against Tom Dallas and Glazkov. Dallas was just terrible and the Glazkov fightwas curtailed by the knee injury, so I wasn't able to draw any sort of conclusions.

Getting the test he did tonight, Martin got truly exposed. He may be a southpaw but that didn't show him to be slick! His lack of head movement was alarming, all AJ needed was a round to take a look at him. Martin felt the power very early and wanted out of there as soon as he realised he wasn't getting out the way of these shots.

Martin's record is littered with journeyman who haven't allowed him to develop to be a reigning world champion and deal with any sort of test at the top end of the division. Maybe the fault lies at the door of the IBF. I'd like to see him get back in there with some fringe contenders and find his level, although it's a question of his own motivation.

AJ is definitely going to have guys calling him out now he has a portion of the world title. Fury, Wilder and Haye all seem like natural fights down the line but they all have their own obligations to attend to first. Realistically we ain't gonna see AJ in a ring with of these till the winter.

Joseph Parker, provided he beats Takam, seems the only the viable opponent next for AJ who could genuinely challenge him. I think Matchroom will leave that one for the time being and opt for Pulev or Chisora.

[BillyBoxing]

If they were to fight tomorrow, Haye would knock AJ's jaw clean off. If a slow-ass Dilian Whyte (a poor man's Derek Chisora) can turn your legs to jelly from cuffing shots with no technique, then you're in serious trouble against someone like Haye who punches with speed, sharpness and power. Remember, he knocked out the senses of an iron-chinned Chisora who, only a fight before, wouldn't shift an inch in the 12 rounds Vitali Klitschko spent with him.

Haye has been wobbled by Mormeck, only has beaten slow heavyweights.

Chisora is a tough guy, but that's it.

Once Haye fights a real heavyweight with speed and power he will get KTFO.

He kinda was in that case against Wlad but refused to engage.
He knew if he really started to exchange Wlad would have put him to sleep.

So he run around the ring while Wlad scored with his jab, easy work.

[stefl14]

Eubank got a boost due to his name, yeah. So what? It means nothing if you can't fight.

A very raw and one dimensional version made a big step up before he was technically ready or experienced enough to do so and lost in a close fight to a guy who is now a world champion. He has improved tremendously since then in every department and I think he'd beat Saunders comfortably in a rematch. He is clearly a world level fighter and will win a world title soon.

Kell Brook doesn't get to pick mandatories, that's the IBF. Both Dan and Bizier were mandatory opponents who he had to fight. Only Gavin was a voluntary and it was a late decision for a stay busy fight instead of sitting out for 6 months.

Eubank just might beat Saunders now, but Saunders himself is extremely limited. Fury is right when he says in jest these are what I call 'British world champions'. I say that as a Brit. These guys aren't world champions. They are all paper titlists. None of them are number one in their division apart from Fury. Frampton and Quigg openly ducked Rigo haha. Saunders openly acknowledges he'd get smashed by Gennady. Eubank would also get annihilated by Gennady. We've had countless champs over the last 10 years but the only legit ones that immediately come to mind are Froch, Hatton, Fury, Haye (cruiserweight) and Calzaghe.

On Brook, fine. How do you explain the 10 years before Porter. Did you see the likes of Floyd waiting 10 years to step up? Is Joshua waiting 10 years? Did Khan wait 10 years? Did Canelo wait 10 years? Did Fury wait 10 years? Which fighter did take 10 bloody years to step up. Not many that's for sure.

[stefl14]

Haye has been wobbled by Mormeck, only has beaten slow heavyweights.

Chisora is a tough guy, but that's it.

Once Haye fights a real heavyweight with speed and power he will get KTFO.

He kinda was in that case against Wlad but refused to engage.
He knew if he really started to exchange Wlad would have put him to sleep.

So he run around the ring while Wlad scored with his jab, easy work.

Wlad hit him with a clean right hand. Haye wasn't even buzzed. If you put Haye in against Joshua, both guys could potentially be stopped. That's how I honestly see it. Right now I'd take Haye. As for Haye refusing to engage, Haye has always been a guy who relies on counter punching. Wlad is probably the worst style match up for Haye. Joshua would never fight how Wlad did.

[-Kev-]

Joshua is making a good name for himself at a young age by dispatching everyone the way he is supposed to. Fury and Wilder should be worried, Joshua is not a bum.

[emre belozoglu]

I think the ref should have let them fight on

[emre belozoglu]

Eubank is another guy who got passes because of his father but really isn't that good. He wings wide and got beaten by Saunders who basically just threw jabs. A jab was enough to beat the man. Yes he's improved but if it wasn't for his father he'd be talked about as a contender and nothing else, with everyone knowing he'd never be a truly world class fighter.

Shawn Porter is a decent though not great win, but it's Kell Brook's only notable win. And Brook spent 10 bloody years beating nobody's in England before that. 10 years wasted. Since then he's fought three absolute bums. I don't care who is ducking him, the three fighters he picked shows exactly what type of man he is, a man who won't fight anybody but scrubs unless it's for big money.

People said Eubanks wouldn't even beat the domestic fighters he's proved a lot wrong and now a world level fighter, Saunders is maybe the 2nd best middleweight with the number 1 probably the best fighter in the sport and jr lost a razor thing sd to him in his first 12 round fight. both him and Joshua are great to watch so people are hyped

[stefl14]

People said Eubanks wouldn't even beat the domestic fighters he's proved a lot wrong and now a world level fighter, Saunders is maybe the 2nd best middleweight with the number 1 probably the best fighter in the sport and jr lost a razor thing sd to him in his first 12 round fight. both him and Joshua are great to watch so people are hyped

Despite Canelo's sketchiness with weight picking, he beats bloody Saunders. Saunders isn't second best. Neither is Eubank. Canelo beats both. Gennady isn't the best fighter in the sport based on his current resume, no way.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Eubank just might beat Saunders now, but Saunders himself is extremely limited. Fury is right when he says in jest these are what I call 'British world champions'. I say that as a Brit. These guys aren't world champions. They are all paper titlists. None of them are number one in their division apart from Fury. Frampton and Quigg openly ducked Rigo haha. Saunders openly acknowledges he'd get smashed by Gennady. Eubank would also get annihilated by Gennady. We've had countless champs over the last 10 years but the only legit ones that immediately come to mind are Froch, Hatton, Fury, Haye (cruiserweight) and Calzaghe.

On Brook, fine. How do you explain the 10 years before Porter. Did you see the likes of Floyd waiting 10 years to step up? Is Joshua waiting 10 years? Did Khan wait 10 years? Did Canelo wait 10 years? Did Fury wait 10 years? Which fighter did take 10 bloody years to step up. Not many that's for sure.

Being a world champion and being the lineal champion are different. Being a world champion still means a lot in most cases. I only have a problem when the title is won from 'vacant' status.

Eubank is still very much learning and improving, I don't expect him to reach his peak for another 2-3 years and I feel he could be a match for anyone at that point. He's got a lot of great attributes and skills to build on.

As for Brook, he won his world title at 28, Fury won his at 27...it's all about promoters and opportunities. Some guys get that promotional push early and some have to work their way into it. He got his chance, he went to America and took it, it's now up to Hearn to get him the fights he wants.