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  • emre belozoglu
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    #121
    Originally posted by stefl14
    Despite Canelo's sketchiness with weight picking, he beats bloody Saunders. Saunders isn't second best. Neither is Eubank. Canelo beats both. Gennady isn't the best fighter in the sport based on his current resume, no way.
    its all speculation at this stage but you could say Saunders is more proven at 160. Ggg probably isn't on resume but a lot of knowledgable people think he's the goods. If a fight with Eubank and canelo ever got made i think Eubank would stop him

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    • stefl14
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      #122
      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      Being a world champion and being the lineal champion are different. Being a world champion still means a lot in most cases. I only have a problem when the title is won from 'vacant' status.

      Eubank is still very much learning and improving, I don't expect him to reach his peak for another 2-3 years and I feel he could be a match for anyone at that point. He's got a lot of great attributes and skills to build on.

      As for Brook, he won his world title at 28, Fury won his at 27...it's all about promoters and opportunities. Some guys get that promotional push early and some have to work their way into it. He got his chance, he went to America and took it, it's now up to Hearn to get him the fights he wants.
      Age is not the main factor, it's years as a pro. All the great fighters managed to do it quicker than Brook. I think the man is pretty good but so far his career has disappointed. Eubank will never be a match for someone of the caliber of Golovkin in my opinion. Also, in my opinion the only title the matters is who is the man in the division. Belts are irrelevant. Unless you're the best or the lineal champion, you're not the champion.

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      • stefl14
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        #123
        Originally posted by emre belozoglu
        its all speculation at this stage but you could say Saunders is more proven at 160. Ggg probably isn't on resume but a lot of knowledgable people think he's the goods. If a fight with Eubank and canelo ever got made i think Eubank would stop him
        Well I strongly strongly disagree there about the Canelo think. Canelo is a far better fighter. Eubank is better than people thought he'd turn out that is true, but he's still just short of the top level imo. Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Golovkin is the goods there is no doubting that, but he isn't the best fighter in the sport in my opinion. Ward, Kovalev and Gonzales are arguably all better fighters. I'd say I'm as knowledgeable as any commentator that hasn't been a pro boxer since I've actually boxed for over 10 years and have over 80 amateur fights.

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        • gmc_rfc_06
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          #124
          Originally posted by stefl14
          Age is not the main factor, it's years as a pro. All the great fighters managed to do it quicker than Brook. I think the man is pretty good but so far his career has disappointed. Eubank will never be a match for someone of the caliber of Golovkin in my opinion. Also, in my opinion the only title the matters is who is the man in the division. Belts are irrelevant. Unless you're the best or the lineal champion, you're not the champion.
          Again though, it's about promotion and opportunities.

          A guy like Joshua, Mayweather, Khan, etc...had the olympic games which gave them a platform to turn pro with big promoters and opportunities.

          Canelo didn't get a proper world title fight until his 37th fight due to his situation. Since then he's done very well. Brook got his world title in his 33rd fight and has taken it, he now needs Hearn to get him the big fights.

          I have full belief in Eubank, I believe he'll do great things. Tremendous athletic/physical gifts, a very good, and still improving, skill-set, a great chin...obviously there's some rough edges to smooth out, but they are all very fixable.

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          • Divine Hammer
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            #125
            povetkin will demolish joshua easily. wlad brutally KOs joshua.

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            • stefl14
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              #126
              Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
              Again though, it's about promotion and opportunities.

              A guy like Joshua, Mayweather, Khan, etc...had the olympic games which gave them a platform to turn pro with big promoters and opportunities.

              Canelo didn't get a proper world title fight until his 37th fight due to his situation. Since then he's done very well. Brook got his world title in his 33rd fight and has taken it, he now needs Hearn to get him the big fights.

              I have full belief in Eubank, I believe he'll do great things. Tremendous athletic/physical gifts, a very good, and still improving, skill-set, a great chin...obviously there's some rough edges to smooth out, but they are all very fixable.
              Don't get me wrong Eubank has got further than I expected, but he's never beating someone like Golovkin in my opinion.

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              • TaurusJ27
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                #127
                Joshua's right. Ouch!

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                • bronx7
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                  #128
                  Martin was talking all kinds of sh$t how **** **** he was going to destroy Joshua. Martin said he was very elusive had awesome head movement

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                  • bronx7
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                    #129
                    After all the hood talk he pulls the famous jump up after 10 count like you wanted more. Quitting without having to say it. Another broner like embarrassing fighter

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                    • bronx7
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                      #130
                      Talks the talk no one in England had hood toughness then he folds can't walk the walk. He could have gotten up no doubt

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