Lennox Lewis - Best Heavyweight Resume Ever

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  • just the facts
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    #71
    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
    He's the perfect fighter similar to how Kaepernick is the perfect QB, only he doesn't have the QB IQ to realize that potential. Unlike Kaepernick, Fury seems to have elite boxing IQ, thus I believe he will realize his potential. Fury is a giant who has fight ending power in both hands, lightning fast handspeed, intelligent footwork, a slick defensive and counter attacking style, a fearlessness in the ring, and incredible stamina. He may be beaten one day, maybe even outboxed, but it's going to take a heck of a performance, and most likely a complete fighter to do it.

    When you see a sloppy awkward mess, I see finesse, the fluidity of the sweet science embodied by out modern day Achilles: Tyson Fury.
    That's some man crush you got going on there. I have to give you credit, you were singing Furys praises before he beat Wlad. That being said, I don't see what you see, Lets take a look.

    Fight ending power in both hands? Respectable power for sure but not a crusher. Lightning fast speed? Hell NO, average at best. Intelligent forrtwork? No. just no. Fearless? OK. Incredible stamina? He's alright, but not "incredible. Finesse and fluidity? GTFOH, way closer to Maidana than Whitaker. Throw in a suspect chin and you have Big John Tate waiting to happen.

    As I posted before, the first world class heavyweight with good power, that fights an aggressive fight puts Furys lights out.

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    • TheBoxingXpert
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      #72
      Originally posted by Teddy05
      C'mon, he knocked out cold by Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman and was getting beat up by klitschko, hence the no rematch.

      He was a great heavyweight, but you cant lose to Oliver mcCall and Rahamn in your prime and be the greatest ever
      He avenged those losses and it's heavyweight, anyone can get knocked out by the perfect punch then.

      He defeated Klitschko, even though he was fat and old, so why try to make one of his most fantastic victories seem like some kind of shame? He didn't need to give Vitali a rematch, Vitali had his chance and why should Lewis risk harming his record just because the Vitali fanboys didn't like that their boy got destroyed? Lewis won and boxers promise a lot of stuff that they don't keep. He was old and past it, so he did the right thing in retiring.

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      • Teddy05
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        #73
        Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
        He avenged those losses and it's heavyweight, anyone can get knocked out by the perfect punch then.

        He defeated Klitschko, even though he was fat and old, so why try to make one of his most fantastic victories seem like some kind of shame? He didn't need to give Vitali a rematch, Vitali had his chance and why should Lewis risk harming his record just because the Vitali fanboys didn't like that their boy got destroyed? Lewis won and boxers promise a lot of stuff that they don't keep. He was old and past it, so he did the right thing in retiring.
        1. The guy lost to McCall and rahman in his prime, how can he have the greatest resume with 2 defeats to mediocre fighters in his prime?

        2. Lewis won on a cut, but was getting well beaten on all 3 scorecards that's a fact. If Lewis showed up fat thats his own fault for not training. You are delusional if you cant admit Lewis was clearly losing prior to the stoppage

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        • LetOutTheCage
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          #74
          Originally posted by Teddy05
          1. The guy lost to McCall and rahman in his prime, how can he have the greatest resume with 2 defeats to mediocre fighters in his prime?

          2. Lewis won on a cut, but was getting well beaten on all 3 scorecards that's a fact. If Lewis showed up fat thats his own fault for not training. You are delusional if you cant admit Lewis was clearly losing prior to the stoppage
          He's a troll pay him no mind.

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            #75
            Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
            Vitali and Lewis fought. Vitali lost. It's a fact. What would happen in a rematch is something that we can only guess about, but Vitali obviously didn't yet have the defensive skills to hang with a big and powerful guy like Lewis who knows how to place the evil punches. Vitali would maybe never have been allowed to fight again if that fight had continued, so he should be happy that he got away only with his head being punched open.
            In every round Klitschko threw more punches. In rounds 1-5 Vitali landed more power punches. Round 6 Lennox landed .

            In every round Klitschko threw more punches. In rounds 1-5 Vitali landed more power punches. *Round 6 Lennox landed more power punches 10-8. *(Hardly the sudden rise in power punches that Lennox fans have been claiming). As for jabs round 3 was even at 17 jabs landed apiece.

            *In the other 5 rounds Vitali landed more jabs. So...let's see, Klitschko threw more punches in every round (by far). *In rounds 1,2, 4 and 5 Vitali landed more jabs and more power punches. There is no round that shows Lennox controlling in either punch volume or apreciable punches landed. The entire idea that Lennox was suddenly getting the upper hand comes from two punches landed right before the end or round 6. *


            Yet....it was Lennox literally collapsing to his stool right before the Doctor ended it. Just being real. *Lennox is the champion on a bare technicality. *He lost the fight

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              #76
              Originally posted by Teddy05
              1. The guy lost to McCall and rahman in his prime, how can he have the greatest resume with 2 defeats to mediocre fighters in his prime?

              2. Lewis won on a cut, but was getting well beaten on all 3 scorecards that's a fact. If Lewis showed up fat thats his own fault for not training. You are delusional if you cant admit Lewis was clearly losing prior to the stoppage
              Lewis was clowning around when Rhaman caught him.Everyone has loses ,you add wins not loses when you are comparing better resumes..... Head to head match ups is when you count the loses to make realistic comparisons. Lewis fought the best Hw's ever .And won,you dont discredit a dominant era champ over 2 losses he avenged.

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                #77
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                All time greats don't get saved by the bell to 180 pounders either,but it can happen!
                Lewis was great. I'm not anti Lewis. Ali was the man, and he would have KO'd Lewis because of his jab, speed and incredible footwork that Lewis never had. And of course because of that china CHIN.

                Lewis would have had a hard time landing against Prime Ali.

                There is only one Muhammad Ali.
                That doesn't mean Lewis sucks.

                Too bad there wasn't a Bowe Lewis trilogy or Prime Holyfield Lewis. Not Lewis' fault though

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  In every round Klitschko threw more punches. In rounds 1-5 Vitali landed more power punches. Round 6 Lennox landed .

                  In every round Klitschko threw more punches. In rounds 1-5 Vitali landed more power punches. *Round 6 Lennox landed more power punches 10-8. *(Hardly the sudden rise in power punches that Lennox fans have been claiming). As for jabs round 3 was even at 17 jabs landed apiece.

                  *In the other 5 rounds Vitali landed more jabs. So...let's see, Klitschko threw more punches in every round (by far). *In rounds 1,2, 4 and 5 Vitali landed more jabs and more power punches. There is no round that shows Lennox controlling in either punch volume or apreciable punches landed. The entire idea that Lennox was suddenly getting the upper hand comes from two punches landed right before the end or round 6. *


                  Yet....it was Lennox literally collapsing to his stool right before the Doctor ended it. Just being real. *Lennox is the champion on a bare technicality. *He lost the fight
                  Both fighters were exhausted, but one was far more busted up than the other. It was a legit win for Lewis, and if the fight had continued I have no doubt Vits would have been stopped.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
                    Let's be honest, Lennox Lewis has to be considered the best heavyweight boxer ever, mainly based on the fact that he has the best heavyweight resume ever.

                    In one of his earliest fights, he fought undefeated KO machine Gary Mason.
                    He would later defeat legends like Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield.
                    And who else would, out-of-prime and overweight, be able to beat a prime Vitali Klitschko?

                    He also defeated lots of other good opponents.

                    To make matters even more impressive, he avenged both of the only two defeats he suffered in his career.

                    He was tall and with an extremely long reach, having longer arms than even guys like Vitali who are taller than him. He had punching power, he had skills, he had the heart of a warrior. Lennox Lewis the best heavyweight ever and I would favour him against any heavyweight in history.
                    No fu%&kin@ way. His first reign as a splintered paper champion his opponents were pathetic less maybe Bruno.

                    In second reign he cleaned out the division but Holyfield and Tyson were shells of their former selves. I will say that Tua was ducked by everyone but Lewis had to fight as he was a mandatory. He also beat Vitali on a fluke with the laces of his glove causing a cut.

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                    • Sledgeweather17
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      In every round Klitschko threw more punches. In rounds 1-5 Vitali landed more power punches. Round 6 Lennox landed .

                      In every round Klitschko threw more punches. In rounds 1-5 Vitali landed more power punches. *Round 6 Lennox landed more power punches 10-8. *(Hardly the sudden rise in power punches that Lennox fans have been claiming). As for jabs round 3 was even at 17 jabs landed apiece.

                      *In the other 5 rounds Vitali landed more jabs. So...let's see, Klitschko threw more punches in every round (by far). *In rounds 1,2, 4 and 5 Vitali landed more jabs and more power punches. There is no round that shows Lennox controlling in either punch volume or apreciable punches landed. The entire idea that Lennox was suddenly getting the upper hand comes from two punches landed right before the end or round 6. *


                      Yet....it was Lennox literally collapsing to his stool right before the Doctor ended it. Just being real. *Lennox is the champion on a bare technicality. *He lost the fight.
                      If the fight had continued Vitali would have be walking around with one eye now.

                      Lol, stop trying to rewrite the script, we all saw it, and we saw Lewis go desert storm on that eye.

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