Kov has timing, a great jab and cuts off the ring damn well.. That said

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    #41
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
    I'm having a hard time seeing how Ward pulls it off. But if he does, you fcukers better give credit where it's due.

    I don't wanna hear no schit like "all he does is hold, headbutt" or "He beat Kov, but what what about Beterbiev" the same night after they fight.

    We know how you guys come up with insane theories and wants immediately after the fight.

    I don't see how Ward pulls it off, but if he does, give the man some fcukin credit. In fact, you all should kiss his ass
    You must be new. Thats just not how many boxing fans work. If Ward wins a decision over Kovalev you can bet Beterbiev or GGG or someone else is gonna get thrown out there immediately. If Kovalev wins by KO over Ward you can bet Stevenson or Beterbiev or someone else is gonna get thrown out there immediately. Thats just how things work for a solid segment of boxing fans. And the loser will be a bum to some segment of fans as well. Welcome to boxing in 2016.

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      #42
      Ward/Kov is the best fight that can be make in boxing right now. This is a 50/50 fight.

      Both guys have a lot of skills so stepping in the ring is the only way to prove who will come on top

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        #43
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        You must be new. Thats just not how many boxing fans work. If Ward wins a decision over Kovalev you can bet Beterbiev or GGG or someone else is gonna get thrown out there immediately. If Kovalev wins by KO over Ward you can bet Stevenson or Beterbiev or someone else is gonna get thrown out there immediately. Thats just how things work for a solid segment of boxing fans. And the loser will be a bum to some segment of fans as well. Welcome to boxing in 2016.
        I know but I'm just trying to establish a treaty between the two warring parties lol

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          #44
          Originally posted by Chollo Vista
          Do you know the definition of hypocrite?

          Exactly what have I been hypocritical about?
          Andre Ward to Golovkin: Come up to 168 and fight me.

          Golovkin: I'll come up 4 lbs, and we can fight at 164.

          Ward: No deal

          You: Li'l g ducked Ward.


          Golovkin to Canelo: You're the 160lb champ, come up to 160 and fight me.

          Canelo: I'm not coming up even 1lb. You gotta down come and we can fight at 155.

          Golovkin: No deal.

          You: Li'l g ducked Canelo.

          If you know the definition of hypocrite, that should answer both your questions.

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            #45
            Originally posted by considerthis
            Am i the only one who feels like kovalev is a bit overrated? To me, he's similar to ggg in that he looks good, but hasn't faced the greatest opposition. The fight against ward will be telling.
            Kova is GGG with less skill and refinement.

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              #46
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Andre Ward to Golovkin: Come up to 168 and fight me.

              Golovkin: I'll come up 4 lbs, and we can fight at 164.

              Ward: No deal

              You: Li'l g ducked Ward.


              Golovkin to Canelo: You're the 160lb champ, come up to 160 and fight me.

              Canelo: I'm not coming up even 1lb. You gotta down come and we can fight at 155.

              Golovkin: No deal.

              You: Li'l g ducked Canelo.

              If you know the definition of hypocrite, that should answer both your questions.
              I like GGG & I find all this duck talk silly, but isn't it more like this?

              GGG or GGG's people: We'll fight anyone from 154lbs to 168lbs

              Ward & Canelo: Okay!!!

              GGG & GGG's people: LOL jk

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                #47
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Andre Ward to Golovkin: Come up to 168 and fight me.

                Golovkin: I'll come up 4 lbs, and we can fight at 164.

                Ward: No deal

                You: Li'l g ducked Ward.


                Golovkin to Canelo: You're the 160lb champ, come up to 160 and fight me.

                Canelo: I'm not coming up even 1lb. You gotta down come and we can fight at 155.

                Golovkin: No deal.

                You: Li'l g ducked Canelo.

                If you know the definition of hypocrite, that should answer both your questions.
                Where have I said GGG ducked Canelo? So yes, since I never said that, you don't know the meaning of hypocrite.

                Let's try this again, since you're hard in comprehending

                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                I remember Canelo getting similar hate. Once upon a time, Canelo was looked at as having a padded record and fighting old has been's. He took offense to some of the comments he would see online and went to DLH himself and demanded fights against all those people the public was accusing Canelo of ducking (i.e. Trout, Cotto, Kirkland, Lara, Angulo and at the time Paul Williams). So in an effort to alleviate the hate, Canelo demanded better fighters and did whatever it took to see to it that those said fighters got in the ring with him.

                Wanna know how GGG can shut up these "flwmo's" as you put it? Get Ward, Canelo, Jacobs and everyone else in the ring that he's been accused of ducking. He should be demanding better from Loeffler and if Loeffler can't provide these fighters, then maybe he should find a new promoter. That's one way of shutting up the critics.
                Now, let me break it down for you.

                What me and many other people are saying is GGG should seek the big showdown he desperately needs in his career at the age of 34 by pursuing a valid opponent by any means necessary.

                Hopkins fought DLH at a catchweight.

                Mayweather fought DLH at a catchweight to become the household name he is today.

                Canelo fought Mayweather at a catchweight

                Pac with DLH

                Many great fighters in the history of boxing have seeked opportunities to become the legends they are today in fights where the catchweight placed them at a disadvantage or the weight gain/loss placed them in a state of vulnerability.

                Fans like you, refuse to challenge GGG to seek such opportunities that might possibly place him at a disadvantage to seek honor and glory.

                This is fine by me. Because as long as this continues, it's his legacy that will suffer when it's all said and done and we're watching "Boxing Greats" on ESPN.

                I'm cool with watching Monroe vs Golovkin on "Boxing's Historic Fights, Night of Legends".

                While real legends like Roy Jones Jr, who started at a weight class below GGG's and went all the way up to Heavyweight, has classic fights against James Toney, Virgil Hill, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum, etc.... GGG will have legendary fights against Dominic Wade and Curtis Stevens.

                While Hagler has legendary fights against Duran, Hearns and Leonard, GGG will have legendary fights against Adama.

                While Andre Ward has legendary fights against Froch, Abraham, Kessler and Kovalev, GGG will have legendary fights against Kasim Ouma and Rubio. BTW, Ouma is one of 3 champions GGG has beaten in his entire career. Who will GGG's "Duran, Hearns, Leonard, James Toney, or Mike McCallum" be? Let me guess, Daniel Geale.

                Fine by me. I'll continue to let fans like you breast feed this baby and nurture his career right down the toilet.

                Now go back and tell me what hypocrite means again as if that's what I was alluding too.
                Last edited by Chollo Vista; 04-05-2016, 09:25 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  I like GGG & I find all this duck talk silly, but isn't it more like this?

                  GGG or GGG's people: We'll fight anyone from 154lbs to 168lbs

                  Ward & Canelo: Okay!!!

                  GGG & GGG's people: LOL jk
                  Not really. When he was saying that, HBO asked how about Ward? Ggg said sure, Ward said bad time for me. And he definitely didn't say "no matter how laughable the deal"

                  They're still offering Canelo a CW, but he'll have to stop insulting the sport and vacate first

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    I like GGG & I find all this duck talk silly, but isn't it more like this?

                    GGG or GGG's people: We'll fight anyone from 154lbs to 168lbs

                    Ward & Canelo: Okay!!!

                    GGG & GGG's people: LOL jk
                    Anyone from 154 to 168 means anyone in that weight range is a possible opponent.

                    It doesn't mean we will literally fight anybody, whenever they want it, and at whatever weight they tell us to fight them at. That's what journeymen do.

                    Elite fighters and world title holders look at their options, negotiate with possible opponents, and either take fights or turn them down and go elsewhere, depending on how the negotiations turn out.

                    That's unless they are mandated to fight each other for a world title, of course, in which case ... oh, wait ...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                      Where have I said GGG ducked Canelo? So yes, since I never said that, you don't know the meaning of hypocrite.

                      Let's try this again, since you're hard in comprehending



                      Now, let me break it down for you.

                      What me and many other people are saying is GGG should seek the big showdown he desperately needs in his career at the age of 34 by pursuing a valid opponent by any means necessary.

                      Hopkins fought DLH at a catchweight.

                      Mayweather fought DLH at a catchweight to become the household name he is today.

                      Canelo fought Mayweather at a catchweight

                      Pac with DLH

                      Many great fighters in the history of boxing have seeked opportunities to become the legends they are today in fights where the catchweight placed them at a disadvantage or the weight gain/loss placed them in a state of vulnerability.

                      Fans like you, refuse to challenge GGG to seek such opportunities that might possibly place him at a disadvantage to seek honor and glory.

                      This is fine by me. Because as long as this continues, it's his legacy that will suffer when it's all said and done and we're watching "Boxing Greats" on ESPN.

                      I'm cool with watching Monroe vs Golovkin on "Boxing's Historic Fights, Night of Legends".

                      While real legends like Roy Jones Jr, who started at a weight class below GGG's and went all the way up to Heavyweight, has classic fights against James Toney, Virgil Hill, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum, etc.... GGG will have legendary fights against Dominic Wade and Curtis Stevens.

                      While Hagler has legendary fights against Duran, Hearns and Leonard, GGG will have legendary fights against Adama.

                      While Andre Ward has legendary fights against Froch, Abraham, Kessler and Kovalev, GGG will have legendary fights against Kasim Ouma and Rubio. BTW, Ouma is one of 3 champions GGG has beaten in his entire career. Who will GGG's "Duran, Rubio, Leonard, James Toney, or Mike McCallum" be? Let me guess, Daniel Geale.

                      Fine by me. I'll continue to let fans like you breast feed this baby and nurture his career right down the toilet.

                      Now go back and tell me what hypocrite means again as if that's what I was alluding too.
                      Fortunately with Canelo there's a mandate, so he'll have to vacate if he wants that CW, it's only right. Then if he wants to redeem himself later, Ggg will concede a reasonable CW, so not 155, more like 157. Or if he's fine being a punchline, he can camp out at 156 till Ggg has moved up

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