Did Mayweather Harm or Help the sport of boxing

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  • Mr. Punch-Out!!
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    #111
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    No, but just because he played the villian doesn't mena people watched to see him lose.
    That's EXACTLY why people wanted to see him lose.

    This isn't the 1980's. People gravitate toward edgier people in the 90's and 2000's-Stone Cold, the Rock, Floyd, Brock Lesnar, McGregor, and some examples from UFC as well.
    First of all, WWE personas are a totally different story.

    Second, there are people who don't like Conor because of his trash-talk, hence why people are still mocking him after he lost Diaz.

    So all that is pointless.
    Last edited by Mr. Punch-Out!!; 03-10-2016, 03:32 PM.

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    • Razcal26
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      #112
      Originally posted by djeffectz
      hurt the sport

      back then the best fought the best now its all risk/reward thing.
      If you asked a friend whoes the first person you think about when someone said boxing, who would they say? Ali, tyson and pacquiao.
      looooooooooooooooooool

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      • Irony123
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        #113
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        those statements are made so the opponent can't not inflate his value. Saying I want DUnn next means DUnn is going to ask for more.

        WHy would they refuse easy fights for big money? was kirkland a good fight? is khan? come on dude, wake up. ODH is doing what he learned from Bob.

        WHat fighter did the sport a favor? You think Ali fought Frazier because he wanted to do boxing a favor. He was broke and needed moeny and that was the highest paying fight out there.

        You have a distorted, romanticized perception of the sport that is completely different than reality.

        What do you mean by furthered the sport?

        DO you mean fought big fights? If so, floyd did that. do you mean brought fans in-floyd did that. now, if you mean had a legendary fight, well no he hasn't. but those men fought in anera where boxing was bigger and the pool of talent was deeper.

        SO
        These statements seem a lot more common now a days then before. Maybe its the media, maybe the game changed and people figured out how to play hard ball to maximize profit. Imagine if Ali and Frazier realized how much more money the can make by fighting 5 years from now... tell me that is healthy for the sport.

        Whatever the reasons were that the fighters chose to fight whether they were broke or not isn't my point, what i am saying that at the end of the day if Ali, Tyson and all those guys didn't exist the sport would be less than what it is today. Ask yourself (seriously), if i can remove one fighter from the history of the sport... would it be Ali or Floyd... would it be Tyson or Floyd, would it be SRL or Floyd. damn it Dunn you made me go off topic but still an interesting proposition.

        When i say further the sport i mean literally the sport will be more thriving because of them and that could mean but isn't limited to 1) inspiring others to enter the sport 2) generate great memories for fans of the sport 3) inspire fighters 4) increase popularity of the sport (at the current time and for the future) 5) leading by example inside and outside the ring 6) furthering sportsmanship and warrior mentality (to me this is important, might not be to everyone) etc.
        Last edited by Irony123; 03-10-2016, 03:30 PM.

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        • DinoCop
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          #114
          The ones who voted on worse made the sport worse.

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          • djeffectz
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            #115
            Originally posted by Razcal26
            looooooooooooooooooool
            im for real, i even asked my teachers, 5 of them said pacquiao and 1 of them said Ali

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            • Razcal26
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              #116
              Originally posted by djeffectz
              im for real, i even asked my teachers, 5 of them said pacquiao and 1 of them said Ali
              Oh wow, your teachers equate for Boxing fans world wide..............

              On this forum, Mayweather has more threads about him than Pacquiao....... and Pacquiao is the one with a fight coming up and Floyd is retired........

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              • Irony123
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                #117
                Originally posted by Joe Beamish
                Today, "A side" fighters avoid other fighters through various means, and negotiate ways to unfairly handicap opponents in or near their weight class. Floyd didn't create this world, but he was a big part of exploiting it and setting an example for lesser men. He definitely avoided taller fighters with a longer reach; he definitely postponed facing Pacquaio for many years -- he only took fights on his own exact terms or he would simply avoid them.

                Whenever Cotto or Canelo act like divas, it's because of Floyd.
                This is pretty much my point and how i feel about it, hence the post.

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                • b00g13man
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                  #118
                  TBE got em salty.

                  Lol @ GGG fanboy complaining about fighters not taking risks.

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                  • TOBYLEE1
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                    #119
                    Floyd went on Dancing with the stars, WWF and did some commercials to get know with the main stream public.

                    His ppv numbers accounts for his popularity and making his foes get some type of recognition.

                    What did damage to the PPV is that Floyd/Pac. A real let down that might have turned off many from buying another event

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Mr. Punch-Out!!
                      That's EXACTLY why people wanted to see him lose.



                      First of all, WWE personas are a totally different story.

                      Second, there are people who don't like Conor because of his trash-talk, hence why people are still mocking him after he lost Diaz.

                      So all that is pointless.
                      How do you know this? You are making silly assumptions rather than the obvious.

                      You are suggesting that fans were motivated more by wanting to see him lose than actually liking him.

                      No other time in the sport, except Jack Johnson, did people watch to see a guy lose. Then it was because Jack was black.

                      Why doesn't this phenomenon work with other guys that have tried it?

                      mocking him after does not prove they purchased to see him lose.

                      Dude, even you know your argument has no validity.

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