Did Mayweather Harm or Help the sport of boxing

[GrandpaBernard]

Way to change your argument; you were talking about how fans gravitate to people like that and I pointed out how they still get hate for that. Ronda Rousey is another example of that.

If you want to talk about why people buy his fights, it's because Conor can back up his talk with entertaining fights. Like I said earlier, it's about giving people their money's worth. This doesn't change the fact that people want to see him lose. I've never heard anybody say they're a fan of his trash talk but the fact that his fights are entertaining and memorable is why he's more appreciated compared to somebody who trash talks and then bore people to decision wins.

You're about to now.

I tuned into McG's most recent fight hoping he'd win because his **** talking drew me in.

But at the end of the day he isn't Mayweather. His azz wrote a check that couldn't be cashed.

Floyd's monster ego is equal to his skill set.

Connor's god complex eclipses his abilities as a fighter.

[The Big Dunn]

Way to change your argument; you were talking about how fans gravitate to people like that and I pointed out how they still get hate for that. Ronda Rousey is another example of that.

If you want to talk about why people buy his fights, it's because Conor can back up his talk with entertaining fights. Like I said earlier, it's about giving people their money's worth. This doesn't change the fact that people want to see him lose. I've never heard anybody say they're a fan of his trash talk but the fact that his fights are entertaining and memorable is why he's more appreciated compared to somebody who trash talks and then bore people to decision wins.

you can't decide if someone got their money's worth dude. Sorry but the fact so many people kept buying his fights indicates the git their money's worth.

Of course some people want to see him lose but you are suggesting this is the motivating factor in why people purchased his fights. That is utterly ******ed.

You are saying he is boring yet his arch rival, fighting in what you would call exciting, memorable fights, couldn't outsell him despite his PPV's being slightly less money.

You honestly think people purchased an inferior product (according to you) for more money just to see if Floyd loses? You can't be that ******.

[The Big Dunn]

Was tyson bad for the sport when he bit off holyfield ear?

when I read sportsmanship I almost threw my ****ing laptop across my office.

[The Big Dunn]

This right here is the crux of the ******ity that plagues Boxing.

Green K.

It makes no sense. if he really took no risks that means people were buying to see him get easy wins.

[GrandpaBernard]

you can't decide if someone got their money's worth dude. Sorry but the fact so many people kept buying his fights indicates the git their money's worth.

Of course some people want to see him lose but you are suggesting this is the motivating factor in why people purchased his fights. That is utterly ******ed.

You are saying he is boring yet his arch rival, fighting in what you would call exciting, memorable fights, couldn't outsell him despite his PPV's being slightly less money.

You honestly think people purchased an inferior product (according to you) for more money just to see if Floyd loses? You can't be that ******.

They get their money's worth by hoping they'll watch the opponent win.

Keyword being hope.

Floyd detractors are highly emotional creatures that make decisions in life based on feelings.

[GrandpaBernard]

It makes no sense. if he really took no risks that means people were buying to see him get easy wins.

which means those people are the biggest Floyd fans. THey're simply too ****** to realize it

[The Big Dunn]

They get their money's worth by hoping they'll watch the opponent win.

Keyword being hope.

Floyd detractors are highly emotional creatures that make decisions in life based on feelings.

exactly. I get the point people do not like him and hope he loses, but the najority of those people do not buy his fights because they do not like him.

I also get that if you made a GGG/Floyd fight they would sell it as "floyd likely losing" because that would be historic.

But to act like all the fights post ODH were all purchased just to see floyd lose is ******ed.

[GrandpaBernard]

exactly. I get the point people do not like him and hope he loses, but the najority of those people do not buy his fights because they do not like him.

I also get that if you made a GGG/Floyd fight they would sell it as "floyd likely losing" because that would be historic.

But to act like all the fights post ODH were all purchased just to see floyd lose is ******ed.

Funny enough I have yet to meet someone that said they was going to cop a Floyd fight to see him lose.

Haters tend to be petty people. These cheapskates aren't going to fork over money that lines the pockets of someone they dislike

IN reality they rather spite FLoyd by not buying his fights at the expense of seeing opponents punish him

[SUBZER0ED]

No I don't and its utterly ******ed when you think about it.

The same people arguing this argue Floyd never took risks. So if he never took risks, why the **** would you then buy a fight thinking he will lose if you already think its an easy fight without risk?

see, some posters are just so ****** that they contradict their own points because they try to fit everything individually into one narrative when that isn't the case.

Booing for example-they booed the national anthem and floyd during the Hatton fight because it was a pro hatton crowd in attendance. Did the Hattonfans wnat floyd to lose -pf course. Did the floyd in attendance come there for that-of course not.

Floyd took minimal risks. The fans that wanted to see him lose hoped that risk was dangerous enough to result in a loss for him.

You contradicted yourself again. You said that the pro-Hatton crowd wanted to see him lose. Earlier, you argued that no one has tuned into see a fighter lose since Jack Johnson. Am I missing something here? Of course nearly everyone wants to see one fighter win and the other fighter lose. Are you suggesting the crowd is largely neutral, hoping the best man wins? Are you smoking that blunt, Dunn? You know that shit messes with your head.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd took minimal risks. The fans that wanted to see him lose hoped that risk was dangerous enough to result in a loss for him.

You contradicted yourself again. You said that the pro-Hatton crowd wanted to see him lose. Earlier, you argued that no one has tuned into see a fighter lose since Jack Johnson. Am I missing something here? Of course nearly everyone wants to see one fighter win and the other fighter lose. Are you suggesting the crowd is largely neutral, hoping the best man wins? Are you smoking that blunt, Dunn? You know that shit messes with your head.

Nice try subzeroed but we all get it. Some fans of course want floyd to lose. That is not the main reason why people purchase a floyd fight.

If you think he took minimal risks, so be it. Many of the people that agree with you said he was afraid to fight the same people prior to floyd beating them.