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Wilder is 36-0 with 35 KO's yet he's not a star?

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  • #91
    Originally posted by Public_Enemy View Post
    On the surface, 36-0 with 35 ko's is impressive but when we take a deeper look Wilder's resume is lacking. Wilder is a title holder and a top five HW but the American audience hasn't bought into him yet. It also doesn't help that the best fighter he faced was the fighter he couldn't knockout. Wilder did answer some questions about himself in that fight, however. Many people thought he would lose.

    The other top fighters in the division are not American. Wilder may have to travel for most of his biggest fights. Defeating Povetkin and then the Fury/Klitschko winner will legitimize him as a champion and should also make him a star. It would help his cause if there was a popular heavyweight for him to challenge though.

    It would've been better if Wilder built his resume fighting better American heavyweights like Cunningham, Jennings and Thompson.
    Wilder-Szpilka drew 13,000 people to Barclays Center. The number of fighters who can sell 13,000 tickets in the U.S. can be counted on one hand (or at most 7 fingers). He's not a star? By current standards he definitely is.

    "...better heavyweights like Cunningham, Jennings and Thompson"????? You're joking, right?
    - Cunningham lost to every decent heavyweight he faced. People would have said Wilder cherrypicked a smaller guy had he fought Cunningham.
    - Thompson? The 44-year-old guy who lost on Bounce TV his last time out? Yeah, great resume-builder.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by BennyBlanco View Post
      Wilder-Szpilka drew 13,000 people to Barclays Center. The number of fighters who can sell 13,000 tickets in the U.S. can be counted on one hand (or at most 7 fingers). He's not a star? By current standards he definitely is.

      "...better heavyweights like Cunningham, Jennings and Thompson"????? You're joking, right?
      - Cunningham lost to every decent heavyweight he faced. People would have said Wilder cherrypicked a smaller guy had he fought Cunningham.
      - Thompson? The 44-year-old guy who lost on Bounce TV his last time out? Yeah, great resume-builder.
      Wilder is not a star yet. That is a fact whether you look at it by current standards or not. He is the biggest heavyweight name in the US at the moment and will gain more popularity with each fight as long as he keeps winning.

      I'm not talking about Wilder fighting those names in 2016 or even 2015 but those would've been good names to fight 3 or four years ago when Wilder was building his resume and hadn't won a title yet. Wilder facing Thompson after Thompson ko'd Price twice would've been a solid fight for him at the time and he would've had a common opponent with Wlad. A fight with Jennings would've been good too a few years ago. Two undefeated American heavyweights facing off would've definitely been good for the division. Jennings also beat Szpilka as well so I wouldn't talk down on him as an opponent. My main point was these three fighters are more recognizable names and better fighters than guys like Firtha, Liakovich and Gavern.
      Last edited by Public_Enemy; 03-19-2016, 05:55 AM.

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      • #93
        He hasnt fought anybody....I can only remember one guy name

        Atleast I can name atleast 5 guys GGG has fought

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        • #94
          Hasn't fought anybody even Stevie Wonder could see he just isn't much good you don't have too know boxing to see he is flawed as hell. There is no sense of invincibility and his awkward physique probably does him no favours.

          Tyson & Holy looked mean as **** and were built like juggernauts. Ain't nobody taking somebody with legs like that seriously.
          If that guy gets hit with a good shot his scrawny ass legs will snap and shoot up his ar5e.

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          • #95
            When casuals think of Heavyweight boxing they think Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Foreman all intimidating as hell and built, proportionately.

            Ain't nobody interested in some NBA reject who appears to have rickets.

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            • #96
              Beat POV and then he,all be a star. Beat the best heavyweights ie fury, wlad and haye and then he will be a superstar

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              • #97
                Wilder has a great resume. He has 5 wins (4 by KO) vs. top 50 heavyweights.
                http://boxrec.com/records?reset=1&se...weight&status=

                Top 10:
                Malik Scott #9

                Top 20:
                Bermane Stiverne #18

                Top 30:
                Artur Szpilka #27

                Top 40:
                Johann Duhaupas #38

                Top 50:
                Eric Molina #43

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
                  Wilder has a great resume. He has 5 wins (4 by KO) vs. top 50 heavyweights.
                  http://boxrec.com/records?reset=1&se...weight&status=

                  Top 10:
                  Malik Scott #9

                  Top 20:
                  Bermane Stiverne #18

                  Top 30:
                  Artur Szpilka #27

                  Top 40:
                  Johann Duhaupas #38

                  Top 50:
                  Eric Molina #43
                  Stiverne was in the top ten when Wilder beat him. I believe around five or six.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Damn Wicked View Post
                    Sure, like Holyfield and Lennox were playing the bad guy role, right?

                    If you want to play the victim role you'd better find better excuses than that. Stop crying.
                    Holywho? Oh the guy that got his ear bitten off by Mike Tyson, ok. Lennox had European backing.

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                    • Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber View Post
                      Stiverne was in the top ten when Wilder beat him. I believe around five or six.
                      #4 http://www.tbrb.org/2015/10/10/13-january-2015/

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