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[dan_cov]

Joyce has the better resume but Ortiz is a much better boxer/fighter and Joyce and his team seemed to know it by ducking him

[dan_cov]

Overeem another example.

Skilled but wiry built and terribly chinny then he takes ''horsemeat'' packs of like 60lbs of solid muscle, ripped to the bone and moves to HW and destroys everyone in his path, enters the K1 grand prix and goes through them all. Then he finally fails a test, comes...

[dan_cov]

Some guys don't seem to respond much from them others have massive gains.

I think a huge amount comes down to genetics whether building muscle or when it comes to fighting.
Take for example Vitor Belfort - You could always tell when he was juiced to the gills.
Good fighter,...

[dan_cov]

I'm far from an expert but doesn't Tren stay in your system for ages?

I know fighters aren't the smartest bunch but surely if you was going to use steroids you would do some sort of research, I mean you're an idiot if you do not do a huge amount but I just can not figure why so many athletes...