Boxing is not looking good..

[MrRolltide91]

Boxing is dead.



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[Eff Pandas]

I doubt there can a one centralized power structure in boxing that wont be corrupt. The ones in charge have been and are always in it for the money and money always has a way of corrupting people. And when the ones in charge are backing certain fighters because they bringing in more money than other fighters, its hard not to corrupt things to make sure the cash cows are always winning.

It has been going on forever in boxing and now that boxing is at a low point, the ones in charge are protecting their best fighters and cash cows at all cost even more that's why we are constantly seeing mismatches.

So IMO having a one centralized power would just make things so much more corrupt than it already is.

I strongly disagree. When you have one centralized power the brand drifts from the athlete to that one centralized power structure that the athletes fight under. The NFL is bigger than any one player or team. The NBA is bigger than any one player or team. The UFC is bigger than any one fighter. Boxing needs that type of structure so it doesn't have so many ups & downs when the big names retire or get beaten.

I'm sure corruption will always exist in boxing or any sport to one degree or another, but when you got one entity running things you automatically lower the level of corruption cuz you risk hurting your sport with too much corruption & therefore that centralized power structure. Right now there are so many guys looking out for their own best interest only that they don't care for the greater good of boxing with their tactics to gain more money or power.

[boxinghead530]

I strongly disagree. When you have one centralized power the brand drifts from the athlete to that one centralized power structure that the athletes fight under. The NFL is bigger than any one player or team. The NBA is bigger than any one player or team. The UFC is bigger than any one fighter. Boxing needs that type of structure so it doesn't have so many ups & downs when the big names retire or get beaten.

I'm sure corruption will always exist in boxing or any sport to one degree or another, but when you got one entity running things you automatically lower the level of corruption cuz you risk hurting your sport with too much corruption & therefore that centralized power structure. Right now there are so many guys looking out for their own best interest only that they don't care for the greater good of boxing with their tactics to gain more money or power.

Well ill agree with you on the comparison of the how the NFL and NBA are bigger than one player. But those sports grew to where its at today because everyday americans can relate to those sports. Mostly all kids growing up played football and basketball or baseball and the love for the sport was ingrained in them. Can boxing get to that spot, well as much as I love boxing I don't see it ever getting there so therefore it will always and forever be a little niche sport for only a small audience. There will be every now and then a boxer that comes along and captures lots of attention but the sport will never get to a point where you will have multiple boxers who are true household names.

Now having a one centralized power sounds good and trying to model it after other sports is a good thing. But IMO for boxing to be a sport like the NBA or NFL or UFC it needs a board or commission that's united and represents all boxers around the world as one sport organization. You cant have an boxing organization with one guy at the top running things, it has to be a commission type structure where people vote on certain issues, such as ranking and title fights, etc. I just think having a power structure where its one guy running things is just bad idea. But if the one centralized power structure has a commission and a board where everyone votes on the issues and there is no one man bigger then the other then I think it can work.

[Eff Pandas]

Well ill agree with you on the comparison of the how the NFL and NBA are bigger than one player. But those sports grew to where its at today because everyday americans can relate to those sports. Mostly all kids growing up played football and basketball or baseball and the love for the sport was ingrained in them. Can boxing get to that spot, well as much as I love boxing I don't see it ever getting there so therefore it will always and forever be a little niche sport for only a small audience. There will be every now and then a boxer that comes along and captures lots of attention but the sport will never get to a point where you will have multiple boxers who are true household names.

I don't disagree boxing isn't likely to regain its status like back in the early to mid 1900's. It can certain become bigger, better & more mainstream than it is now. How big it can get again is highly speculative cuz the depths (club shows with 100 people watching) & heights (Manny or Floyd PPV fights with millions watching & paying money to watch). I just know the average can be bigger with a structure in place like nearly every other sport has taken on.

Now having a one centralized power sounds good and trying to model it after other sports is a good thing. But IMO for boxing to be a sport like the NBA or NFL or UFC it needs a board or commission that's united and represents all boxers around the world as one sport organization. You cant have an boxing organization with one guy at the top running things, it has to be a commission type structure where people vote on certain issues, such as ranking and title fights, etc. I just think having a power structure where its one guy running things is just bad idea. But if the one centralized power structure has a commission and a board where everyone votes on the issues and there is no one man bigger then the other then I think it can work.

How you go about it is debatable, but there is little doubt in my mind even a ****ty ran centralized power is better for the sport than the every man for themselves corruption bonanza we got going on right now. Having said that I don't wanna see boards or commissions involved. I want businessmen who have skin in the game to be behind something like this. Kinda like how every other sport has done to one degree or another. Sure there should be a players union or similar group like most of these sports have & is one of the key things the UFC is currently without & why the fighters there are probably not making as much as they should be & are pigeonholed in many ways with accepting things they probably shouldn't be forced into accepting.

[khal-d]

Lots of people here so negative, as if only fights with American fighters matter.

Is OP really acting like anyone will notice Rigo isn't fighting on Saturday? As if Jack v JCC Jr was a meaningful fight?

We just had Quigg-Frampton, one of those "impossible" matches that actually happened and a great weekend with Douglas-Khurtsdize and Chagaev-Browne.

But looking ahead;
- Ward v Barrera (as good as a Ward opponent can get if not Kovalev or Golovkin)
- Joshua v Martin (great fight)
- Pacquiao v Bradley (good fight)
- Drozd v Makabu (great fight)
- Wilder v Povetkin (great fight)
- Lebedev v Ramirez (great fight)
- Parker v Takam possible
- Spence v Algieri (great fight)
- Canelo v Khan (OK fight)
- Vargas v Salido (!!!!)
- Lomachenko v Walters (!!!!)

Later this year we might get GGG-Canelo, Kovalev-Ward, DeGale-Jack and other big match-ups.

The Heavyweights are coming back to life, Cruiserweights kicking ass and unifying, 154 looking good between Charlo brothers, Lara, Trout and Smith, 147 looking good with Garcia, Brook, Thurman, Porter, etc and I'm not even getting into the lighter weight classes.

[MDPopescu]

To add to this: OLYMPIC BOXING has massive potential since this is the first Olympics in a long time without headgear and with pro-style scoring. This will bring new stars from around the world. Olympic Boxing is going to get a ton of attention this summer because of these rule changes, so with all this attention creates new stars. These are the guys who will end up dominating the sport a few years down the road.

Olympic boxing crated enough stars even with headgear on and with that ****** punch-per-punch scoring system... Floyd, Ward, GGG, Rigo, Loma, etcaetera...

[BWC]

rigo, mattyste two boxers to recently cancel bouts. What is going on?

At this rate the UFC will stomp boxing in 5-10 years. UFC's PPV's are already killing boxing- As a boxing fan, this is not looking good. Did pac and Floyd have that much of an effect on fanhood?

UFC PPVs are not "killing" boxings. They had a couple box office stars that have since been crushed.

Really tired of people mouth ****ing the UFC in here. They aren't doing that great guys,,

[about.thousands]

rigo, mattyste two boxers to recently cancel bouts. What is going on?

At this rate the UFC will stomp boxing in 5-10 years. UFC's PPV's are already killing boxing- As a boxing fan, this is not looking good. Did pac and Floyd have that much of an effect on fanhood?

Posted by Ken Fang on Mar 11, 2016 11:45

UFC 196 had two late replacements in its main events. It had two tremendous upsets of its headliners. And it all added up to UFC 196 becoming the second-highest pay per view event in the company’s history. There was a lot of pre-fight buzz especially about Conor McGregor who graced the cover of Sports Illustrated in advance of the card.

UFC president Dana White announced that the event had 1.5 million buys putting it just behind UFC 100 which garnered 1.6 million. And White says people even bought the fight after the event to watch it again. White says there’s a chance that it could surpass UFC 100 when all of the final numbers are tallied, but for UFC 196 to do that well is pretty amazing.

And FS1 saw some incredible numbers for the prelim coverage. The prelims for UFC 196 averaged 1,843,000 viewers which is the second-highest viewership for such coverage. The previous high for an FS1 prelims show was UFC 194 in December which had 1,931,000 viewers.

For the weigh-in, FS1 averaged 358,000 viewers breaking a record for previous weigh-ins.

So UFC 196 certainly reasonated with fans and it resulted in some very good numbers for both the prelims and the pay per view event. White told ESPN Radio’s Max & Marcellus show that the fight captured people’s imaginations and it certainly brought eyeballs to the TV with people buying in almost-record numbers.

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[JaguaresMx]

Boxing is not dead and won't die. It's just a niche sport as has been for a while now.

I am a lifelong boxing fan, but it is frustrating. I've been increasingly exciting about UFC cards. My heart starts pounding like it does for boxing.

Big difference: I have no been exciting about a major boxing fight in a while now. They're always underwhelming (since Pac vs JMM IV).

And I have no confidence the fights i want get made.

Say what you want about UFC, but you know that no one can pad and protect their record by holding off big fights like Canelo or Floyd have. In UFC you know the champion will fight the top contenders.

So, while my excitement for boxing remains, my interest in UFC grows. I would not be surprised if younger fans (20 and younger) have zero interest in boxing and simply prefer the fast paced, guarateed action and big fights of UFC.

[Motofan]

I think I've been hearing about UFC killing boxing for as long as UFC has existed. Yet I hear less people talking about UFC than ever. The constant cycling of "stars" seems to play to the monster truck crowd who would watch literally anyone try to kill anyone if you market right, but not actual fight fans over the longterm. My brother, who never watches boxing and is a big UFC fan even told me a few months back that he doesn't even recognize half the UFC "stars" these days and that all the people he liked a few years back are nowhere to be found.