2016... the first year HBO Boxing will average less than 1 million viewers

[Eff Pandas]

Boxing needs to hit rock bottom before it can get better. I'm kind of happy that the networks and promoters across the board are kind of suffering. It will put the fire under their azzes to get their act together and stop working towards diving the sport in fragments.

Tend to agree with this. Boxing as a business & sport needs to be completely restructured & its not gonna be restructured until someone runs a coup on the boxing power structure in place (as I'd say PBC is attempting right now & AIBA & perhaps others will attempt in the future) or until enough **** falls apart. One of those things will happen I just hope I'm not wearing diapers & trying to grab my Haitian nurse's ass by the time it does.

[al-Xander]

Boxing needs to hit rock bottom before it can get better. I'm kind of happy that the networks and promoters across the board are kind of suffering. It will put the fire under their azzes to get their act together and stop working towards diving the sport in fragments.

In the meantime I'll watch Tennis. A sport where the best actually take on the best in 1-1 competition. When I want to see violent hand to hand combat I'll tune into one of the many free and entertaining UFC cards.

Boxing can kick rocks for all I care at this point. Too many damn divas in the sport.

That's why we need never-ending mismatches till it flattens to the ground. Haymon is doing a good share and the rest has to do more.

[Eff Pandas]

And HBO can give two ****s about advertisers. They want subscribers, which they are getting.

I'm sure they are getting subscribers. Game of Thrones is ****** popular. I just don't think boxing is bringing in those subscribers is the problem & why I suspect HBO's budget has been going down every year since the 90's. They had $100M+/year at one point. Last I heard they got $30M-ish/year nowadays.

[Ham Porter]

We should all celebrate these consistent abysmal numbers boxing as a whole is getting. Maybe if they continue, these f*ggots within the industry will get their **** together, grow a pair of balls and start delivering real fights on a regular basis.

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Kids nowadays prefer MMA & UFC to boxing. Just how it is.

[Dr Rumack]

The cold war has been a disaster for boxing. The sport has suffered massively because of it. We're looking at three consecutive years of long gaps in the schedule, mismatches, and obvious fights not getting made. I don't buy into this 'boxing is dying' talk, but it sure sucks to be a fan right now.

[Nubia]

The cold war has been a disaster for boxing. The sport has suffered massively because of it. We're looking at three consecutive years of long gaps in the schedule, mismatches, and obvious fights not getting made. I don't buy into this 'boxing is dying' talk, but it sure sucks to be a fan right now.

The Cold War was Top Rank's Bob Arum and Golden Boy's Schaefer not doing business with each other. Now with Schaefer gone and Oscar and Arum all made up, it was supposed to get better wasn't it? They were supposed to make great fights together to take on Al Haymon, whom they both refuse to work with (not the other way around), right? What happened there?

If they want their rating to go up they'll simply have to drop their lawsuits towards Haymon and start doing business with them. These little Vargas vs Sadam Ali co-promoted fights aren't going to cut it. They need Haymon.

[al-Xander]

The cold war has been a disaster for boxing. The sport has suffered massively because of it. We're looking at three consecutive years of long gaps in the schedule, mismatches, and obvious fights not getting made. I don't buy into this 'boxing is dying' talk, but it sure sucks to be a fan right now.

I disagree with that line. With or without cold war Haymon will always be about showcasing his top fighters against soft opposition. He rarely pits his top fighters against each other. So this has nothing to do with the cold war.

Lara, for example, has yet to fight Charlo, Jrock, Andrade at 154. There's also Quillin, Jacobs, Lee, all of whom he called out when he was promoting the Zaveck fight. None of these fights are cold-war related.

[al-Xander]

We should all celebrate these consistent abysmal numbers boxing as a whole is getting. Maybe if they continue, these f*ggots within the industry will get their **** together, grow a pair of balls and start delivering real fights on a regular basis.

I'm celebrating when this Haymon-fanatic poster consistently posts negative things about HBO. Haha... as if things will get better with Haymon left standing. I'd be glad to laser-focused on PBC/SHO without HBO in the picture. Let's see what happens.

[brettWall]

I disagree with that line. With or without cold war Haymon will always be about showcasing his top fighters against soft opposition. He rarely pits his top fighters against each other. So this has nothing to do with the cold war.

Lara, for example, has yet to fight Charlo, Jrock, Andrade at 154. There's also Quillin, Jacobs, Lee, all of whom he called out when he was promoting the Zaveck fight. None of these fights are cold-war related.

That's why I never get this cold war thing when there's plenty of interesting in-house fights Haymon can make.

Broner vs Peterson
Garcia vs Broner
Guerrero vs Broner
Thurman vs Broner
Thurman vs Khan
Thurman vs Garcia
Brook vs Thurman
Brook vs Garcia
Brook vs Peterson

Also been following the Charlo brothers and we have no idea what's Haymon's plan for them. Lara vs one of the Charlos should have happened long time ago.