Star? Superstar? This is boxing! You become a star in this sport by kicking ass, not by being a pussy during negotiations! STFU & make the fight, bitches!
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostNATAS what is wrong with boxing is HBO is not mandating the fight to happen. HBO will not force Canelo to fight GGG because they make money as long as they can put both guys in with bums and they score KO's.
As long as fans keep supporting those shows, there is no reason for HBO to make the fight or for Canelo to move off his demands. He can fight BJS in a unification or one of the many other options he has.
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Originally posted by ИATAS View Postsome of these people are absolutely delusional. Canelo is on record, almost every other day, talking about how he's not moving away from 155 pounds and not "giving concessions to Triple-G", and yet these guys can pretend weight isn't an issue. Then on top of that, Oscar is talking about 90/10 which is an absolute joke especially considering this is a 3 belt middleweight unification fight, and these same clowns are talking about "Canelo is A-Side, lil g-string needs to accept deze terms". This is exactly what is wrong with boxing in 2016 (the worst fans on the planet).
Right or wrong, that's just how it is. Canelo is the A side and the A side is in the driving seat. This ain't new to Boxing.
As for the weight, I'm sure every soul on the planet would prefer the fight at 160 but Golovkin shot himself in the foot when he said he'll fight anyone from 154-168. Clearly he will fight "some" people in those weight brackets not everyone.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postyou keep bringing up these little things to carve out wiggle room and act like it makes things so much different. It doesn't.
Almost everyone agrees its not right to have title shots beneath the weight limit. Almost everyone also agrees that concessions have to be made to land the big money fight with the top superstar. SO we are at the point where the "rubber meets the road".
155, while not "right" IMO, is "fair" IMO, given what Team GGG said regarding weight previously. 90/10 is not "right" but given that Canelo is a much bigger draw than GGG and his PPV (whichever # you use 97k/150k) wasn't a huge success, it's understandable why ODH started there.
If GGG takes the fight at 155 and a huge split in money and wins, he will reap the same benefits others before him have when they gave major concessions and won despite those circumstances.
GGG would be earning his respect and stardom, which is how it should be.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostIt's not nitpicking, it's fundamental stuff. Canelo is in the wrong for demanding the most pathetic CW of all time, setting all kinds of bad precedents. He needs to be stripped out of respect for the sport, then he's welcome to challenge the champ at a CW if he gets the confidence somehow
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postyou keep bringing up these little things to carve out wiggle room and act like it makes things so much different. It doesn't.
Almost everyone agrees its not right to have title shots beneath the weight limit. Almost everyone also agrees that concessions have to be made to land the big money fight with the top superstar. SO we are at the point where the "rubber meets the road".
155, while not "right" IMO, is "fair" IMO, given what Team GGG said regarding weight previously. 90/10 is not "right" but given that Canelo is a much bigger draw than GGG and his PPV (whichever # you use 97k/150k) wasn't a huge success, it's understandable why ODH started there.
If GGG takes the fight at 155 and a huge split in money and wins, he will reap the same benefits others before him have when they gave major concessions and won despite those circumstances.
GGG would be earning his respect and stardom, which is how it should be.
Sometimes things aren't "fair", they just are the way they are!
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"No way this goes to purse bid. If they can't agree on a deal then the fight falls through and WBC crowns Golovkin the champ."
Really?
So, if the two sides can't come to a mutually acceptable agreement, WBC won't put a mandated title fight out to purse bids?
Why not?
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Originally posted by aldo5408 View PostUnless gg stops agreeing to step aside Canelo won't be stripped. You say all gg wants is the wbc belt then stop stepping aside so the champ can get stripped and gg gets the wbc title
But I understand the concept of preferring to win the title in the ring, instead of being awarded it in a boardroom. Because otherwise Big Dunn and many others will always discredit him as a paper champ who didnt win the title in the ring, and blah blah blah......
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