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Oscar De La Hoya "negotiations are complicated because gg thinks hes a superstar"
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostNo weight issue lol. Nice fairy tale, hope it allows you to sleep better at night. Would suck knowing your favorite guy is a ducking disgrace
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThis is kind of the same point people have been making relative to GGG/ ward and GGG/froch and Chavez jr. GGG was looking to make froch/chavez at 168 with no issues or BS, but Ward was a different story because he is likely to defeat GGG.
But Golovkin and Canelo are fighting in the same division, are both MW belt holders, and GGG is Canelo's mandatory.
A little different.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThis is kind of the same point people have been making relative to GGG/ ward and GGG/froch and Chavez jr. GGG was looking to make froch/chavez at 168 with no issues or BS, but Ward was a different story because Ward wanted to push the fight 18 months down the road......
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Originally posted by Szef View PostWard is the only fighter Golovkin would be an underdog against and would most likely lose to, I've always said that.
But Golovkin and Canelo are fighting in the same division, are both MW belt holders, and GGG is Canelo's mandatory.
A little different.
While I do not think any title should be contested at a weight below the division max, I have seen it happen many times with fighters superior and bigger draws than GGG. That he may have to make concessions to get the big money fight, even if he is the mando, is not a big deal IMO.
GGG, when he is the "a side", conducts himself the same way Canelo is acting toward him. I don't see how he or his fans can whine about being treated the same way you treated others.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostCanelo has all the leverage and when ggg and his fans get the simple fact that he needs canelo more then canelo needs him the fight will get made on his terms not ggg. GGG knows how this works he threw around I'm the A side talk to try and enforce catch weight and other demands over ward. Now he is the clear B side to canelo and has to either agree or no fight. GGG making things difficult because he doesn't know his place and thinks he's a superstar and he is not canelo is.
He has leverage, plenty of it. That's why Oscar is finding the negotiations "complicated"
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Originally posted by Beercules View PostWhat's that strap in your avi? Wbc middleweight belt?
OK then.
157 is cool with me. Gennady is going to make you a fan of his in September.
About the weight, I'd prefer 160 but 157 is more than fair. Especially if they want the fight right now. There's no way in hell Canelo is going to 160 by September. It's just not happening.
As far as the WBC strap, that's just another bargaining chip Canelo picked up in his pursuit of Cotto (which he's been trying to fight since 2013.)
It just so happened Cotto picked it up along the way and now Canelo owns it....BUT now that he DOES own it, you don't just go giving it away...it's part of his leverage now.
If I have a hand in poker that will take all your money, I'm not just gonna NOT use it for the moral fact of not wanting to send you home broke. Cmon Beer!
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Originally posted by ИATAS View Postsome of these people are absolutely delusional. Canelo is on record, almost every other day, talking about how he's not moving away from 155 pounds and not "giving concessions to Triple-G", and yet these guys can pretend weight isn't an issue. Then on top of that, Oscar is talking about 90/10 which is an absolute joke especially considering this is a 3 belt middleweight unification fight, and these same clowns are talking about "Canelo is A-Side, lil g-string needs to accept deze terms". This is exactly what is wrong with boxing in 2016 (the worst fans on the planet).
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