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  • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
    He tried to fight Froch, who's about Castillo caliber, as a SMW one off, conceding home turf to the Brit
    A retired Froch does not equal a prime Castillo.

    Oh wait, a prime Froch does not equal a prime Castillo.

    Fighting Castillo was about taking over 135. Fighting Froch was strictly a money maker for GGG.

    Nice excuses though.
    Last edited by AllBoxingAD; 03-03-2016, 04:27 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
      Smaller weight classes.

      Hopkins remained for years at 160.
      Smaller weight classes so...?

      Hopkins had to sign his career away to Don King to get the MW tourney. The Hopkins who blasted promoters, testified against them and hated King. I doubt GGG would ever make that kind of sacrifice.

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      • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Smaller weight classes so...?

        Hopkins had to sign his career away to Don King to get the MW tourney. The Hopkins who blasted promoters, testified against them and hated King. I doubt GGG would ever make that kind of sacrifice.
        He was at 160 long before the MW tourney.

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        • Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
          He was at 160 long before the MW tourney.
          Who said he wasn't?

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          • Originally posted by JQside View Post
            Ward did nothing to make the fight happen. He just kept blowing up smoke. Haa..hmm, let's do it... after 3 tuneups, anytime, anywhere...hm... injury doe. Stop this nonsense.


            Andre Ward sent an offer for 50/50 last summer

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Who said he wasn't?
              Not you, because you switched the goal lines from moving up in weight...

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              • Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
                Not you, because you switched the goal lines from moving up in weight...
                No. My point is that fighters have to make sacrifices in order to make big fights happen when they aren't "A-side." In Hopkins' case he had to give up the one thing he fought so dearly for. In GGG's case he's made none. Keeps beating mediocre opposition, demands catchweights when it suits him but is moaning about what Canelo is doing.

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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  No. My point is that fighters have to make sacrifices in order to make big fights happen when they aren't "A-side." In Hopkins' case he had to give up the one thing he fought so dearly for. In GGG's case he's made none. Keeps beating mediocre opposition, demands catchweights when it suits him but is moaning about what Canelo is doing.
                  Hopkins was about 36 years old and 12 years into his career when he fought in the MW tourney.

                  Golovkin is 34 and about 10 years into his pro career.

                  You're a fair guy, I'm sure you'd want to be consistent and give Golovkin a couple more years to see what he does to get a big fight.

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                  • Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
                    Hopkins was about 36 years old and 12 years into his career when he fought in the MW tourney.

                    Golovkin is 34 and about 10 years into his pro career.

                    You're a fair guy, I'm sure you'd want to be consistent and give Golovkin a couple more years to see what he does to get a big fight.
                    I'm not knocking him for holding out for the money and an advantageous situation. I'm just not pretending he's being wronged. He's not.

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                    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      I'm not knocking him for holding out for the money and an advantageous situation. I'm just not pretending he's being wronged. He's not.
                      I agree that he's not being "wronged", but he is being avoided.

                      I hate the prevalence of catchweights, especially with someone like Canelo, who relies on them...but Hopkins made the weight concession to fight DLH, and if Golovkin wants to fight Canelo he may have to do the same.

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