The HBO Budget Crisis and What it Means

[b00g13man]

Lmao... Floyd, morales, manny doing 350k+,,, double what Golovkin has done as the A-side,, yet ggg is the bigger draw... Lmao,, seriously, did you even watch boxing then....

How can one say people that did 350k+ are smaller draws than a guy that headlined one PPv that was below 200k.. Lmao

Ridiculous, right?

[-PBP-]

I knew it was HeroBando that said that dumb ****

I clicked the last page and saw people clowning a dumb comment. HeroBando always deflecting ****.

[bballchump11]

Those fights featured 2 HOFs with a built in fanbase. You know when you put in 2 Ppv draws together, it usually adds up to more than sum of the parts? Plus most of those guys couldn't sell out MSG AND the forum vs a no name

Mayweather vs Baldomir did 3 times the amount of GGG's fight vs Lemiuex.

[BennyBlanco]

That's nonsense. The risk is all on the networks. They pay all the bills. Promoters are essentially beggars. You know nothing doe.

Trust me, you're 100% wrong. Networks have virtually no risk when doing PPVs. If that wasn't true, they wouldn't do them. The risk is all on the promoter: if the PPV sells, promoter/fight get lots of money, but if it doesn't sell, they get very little.

That's exactly how PPV has worked for the last 25 years.

[SplitSecond]

Mayweather vs Baldomir did 3 times the amount of GGG's fight vs Lemiuex.

Was that Mayweather's first PPV?

[bballchump11]

Was that Mayweather's first PPV?

No, his first one did more than the Baldomir one. There's no credible argument for saying GGG is the type of draw Morales, Barrera, Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc were 10 years ago.

[HeroBando]

No, his first one did more than the Baldomir one. There's no credible argument for saying GGG is the type of draw Morales, Barrera, Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc were 10 years ago.

Real easy to prove me wrong, post Morales, Barrera, Pac ppv numbers against no names back in the day. Floyd was bigger, sure, I'm just pointing out his number vs popular and beloved Gatti was not impressive

[Mitchell Kane]

Lmao... Floyd, morales, manny doing 350k+,,, double what Golovkin has done as the A-side,, yet ggg is the bigger draw... Lmao,, seriously, did you even watch boxing then....

How can one say people that did 350k+ are smaller draws than a guy that headlined one PPv that was below 200k.. Lmao

I get what you're saying, and I agree with the point about there not being as many stars now as before, but regarding Golovkin's ppv numbers...he was fighting Lemieux who isn't anything close to a ppv entity.

If you look at some of the smaller ppv's for fighters like Morales (Paulia Ayala, Carlos Hernandez, David Diaz), Pacquiao (Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis), Barrea (Mzonke Fana), they didn't necessarily do big numbers either.

[IMDAZED]

I get what you're saying, and I agree with the point about there not being as many stars now as before, but regarding Golovkin's ppv numbers...he was fighting Lemieux who isn't anything close to a ppv entity.

If you look at some of the smaller ppv's for fighters like Morales (Paulia Ayala, Carlos Hernandez, David Diaz), Pacquiao (Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis), Barrea (Mzonke Fana), they didn't necessarily do big numbers either.

The thing is that nearly all of those PPV's you mentioned were done after Morales/Pacquiao had racked up a big win or two. Golovkin is being handed a lot for not having beat a single soul worth mentioning.

[Mitchell Kane]

No, his first one did more than the Baldomir one. There's no credible argument for saying GGG is the type of draw Morales, Barrera, Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc were 10 years ago.

Morales-Barrera-Marquez-Pacquiao had each other to help push the entire group of them.

Hard to hold that against Golovkin when Cotto and Canelo aren't all that willing to fight him.