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Clear this up for me: GGG will fight Popkins at 168 but they wanted Ward at 164

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  • #91
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    catch weights have been a part of boxing for hundreds of years...it didnt start in this era nor will it end...some of you guys really need to start following the sport and stop d!ckriding one fighter and trolling another

    once chad signed the contract he agreed...excuses are for loses man.


    Im strictly talking GGG....Has he beat any elite fighters? Nope.....
    Of course catchweights are a part of history, usually they are methods to get two guys in two different weight classes to fight each other by "meeting in the middle". Like Whitaker vs Chavez for example and the countless others. When done properly they are great.

    But unfortunately we are living in a time when no longer are catchweights simply a means to make a fight between two fighters in two different weight classes, instead they are being used so that a particular fighter can create an advantage just for him, like Canelo for example who is not fighting at 155 pounds in order to make big fights, he's fighting at 155 pounds because it's the most comfortable weight for him and on top of that, he's now defending his lineal middleweight belt at his own made up weight class and requiring future opponents, from welterweight to middleweight, fight him at his weight class.

    For a guy who pretends to care so much about boxing history, it's funny that you are perfectly ok with this absolute fuckery and joke that our sport is becoming, where it's no longer about the sport itself it's now about everyone trying to become the "A-Side" and what kind of A-side money & A-side demands they can make.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
      I would love to see a GGG vs Ward fight at any weight including 175. Ward was knocked down and hurt by a loser bum with a 20% KO ratio. Nobody has ever hurt GGG or won more than 1 round from him in any fight. GGG would KO Ward. Now Kovalev will KO Ward instead. Either way the badly overrated Ward balloon gets popped.
      When your opponents all are 8-1 to 18-1 underdogs, is it really an accomplishment not losing a round?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
        Hopkins hasn't weighed below 170 in over 10 years.
        I am explained why Ward can't fight ggg at 168. cant make the weight. hopkins was small as a 75 lb fighter

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        • #94
          Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          you have a point...it would be nice if he moved up...no more whining about 160, 168 has good fights who'd be willing to fight him
          People need to understand that GGG came late to the party. Politics rule boxing and the trio of Martinez-Cotto-Canelo was going to happen first. That doesn't even mean that GGG will not get a piece of any of them, it means that his turn was prolonged until those 3 finished doing business. Now it's GGG's turn later this year. There was no ducking done, there was business being done. Just like GGG's willingness to fight Froch, Chavez Jr, Hopkins at 168, but Ward at 164(or basically no Ward at all). He claims he's a fighter and that he's not into business, that he is not a businessman. But he understands it pretty well because he did it himself to Ward, and does it to Lara. K2's reason for not wanting Lara, which is well documented, is because Lara doesn't bring anything to the table(except the best name on GGG's resume).

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          • #95
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            Exactly. Yet his fans on NSB act like he is somehow different and is putting the sport before himself.
            i don't know about that, but i do know that he isn't acting like he is bigger than the sport either, like some other well known fighters.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              People need to understand that GGG came late to the party. Politics rule boxing and the trio of Martinez-Cotto-Canelo was going to happen first. That doesn't even mean that GGG will not get a piece of any of them, it means that his turn was prolonged until those 3 finished doing business. Now it's GGG's turn later this year. There was no ducking done, there was business being done. Just like GGG's willingness to fight Froch, Chavez Jr, Hopkins at 168, but Ward at 164(or basically no Ward at all). He claims he's a fighter and that he's not into business, that he is not a businessman. But he understands it pretty well because he did it himself to Ward, and does it to Lara. K2's reason for not wanting Lara, which is well documented, is because Lara doesn't bring anything to the table(except the best name on GGG's resume).
              I don't know why this is so hard to understand. It even runs all the way down to Sturm and Geale. Sturm didn't fight him because he gets paid heavy in Germany to fight whoever. Geale had a bigger fight at home against Mundine.

              Nobody is ducking anyone. When Geale got his mini-Aussie-megafight with Mundine done he fought GGG because it was his best financial option available.

              Once GGG made a name for himself, the top contenders fought him. Murray, Geale and Lemieux all fought him. In order to take that next step, it's going to be even more expensive to get Canelo and Saunders in the ring.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Irony123 View Post
                i don't know about that, but i do know that he isn't acting like he is bigger than the sport either, like some other well known fighters.
                It is understandable when certain fighters act like they are bigger than the sport given the fact the top stars in the sport and MMA get their most attention when linked to them. It would not be understandable in GGG's case.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                  Because they preferred to fight eachother for big $ rather than fight a 33 year old with no names on his resume. Martinez-Chavez Jr/Cotto, Cotto/Canelo were all bigger fights than any of them vs GGG.
                  Geale, Murray and Khan are not bigger than Ggg. Mexican legends Chavez Sr, Morales, Barrera all agree, Canelo vs Ggg is the biggest fight in boxing

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                  • #99
                    Andre Ward is a serious threat to Golovkin's 0.

                    51 year old Hopkins is not.

                    That's why Team GGG sought the advantage of a catchweight against Andre Ward but don't mind going to 168 for Bernard.

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                    • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                      Geale, Murray and Khan are not bigger than Ggg. Mexican legends Chavez Sr, Morales, Barrera all agree, Canelo vs Ggg is the biggest fight in boxing

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