Comments Thread For: Golovkin: Canelo 155 Demand is Crazy! He is Champion at 160!

[texasboi15]

GGG is looking at being the undisputed middleweight champ, with or without a Canelo fight. He doesn't have to fight him. The only one who loses is Canelo

Golovkin will be the biggest fight by far for Canelo.

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[bug0092]

Interestingly, I don't think that this comes down to money for GGG.

He'll get the recognition as undisputed middleweight champion if Canelo doesn't work out the details to defend the title.

From there GGG can work on a Jacobs fight or go in another less lucrative but still respectable direction, all while waiting for Canelo to finally move up to 160, which seems inevitable for a guy in his mid 20's.

Canelo's eventual move to 160 alongside GGG just getting deeper into his 30's I think is the thing really at play here.

If they don't fight in the fall, it could be a Floyd/Manny worst case scenario where we get the fight 6 years too late to know who the better man really was at the height of their powers.

I don't think Canelo has anywhere near the same aversion to risk as Floyd though, if at all. I don't even think it's him personally demanding the catch weight, just negotiating hardball. GBP can't make this too easy for GGG or K2, Alvarez is the golden goose.

One of the few intelligent posts in this thread. Golovkin's not going anywhere. I doubt he'll be willing to put up his own belts at 155 against Canelo. Maybe in the back of his mind, he'd be willing to go down to 158 or 157. We'll have to see what comes out of the negotiations in May.

Why do people find it so hard to believe what GGG and his team have been consistently saying? That his main goal is unification? They've been clear about this since the Rubio fight. They don't want the Wade fight, but they'll make the best of the mandatory to keep the belt. It will likely be just one of at least 3 fights for GGG this year. They knew this mandatory was going to have to happen at some point. Whether they took care of it now or later didn't matter. It's why they were fine agreeing to a voluntary bout for Canelo and they didn't budge in the negotiations last year.

As for unification, it not only has historical worth but financial worth as well. GGG's very comfortable at MW and could easily spend the rest of his career there. Unification means that any fighter at MW or growing into MW (like Canelo) will have to eventually fight him unless they are content to never fight for a belt, not even a sub-belt that puts them in a mando position to fight GGG. Golovkin's got 3 or 4 good years left in the tank. That's a long time for guys to avoid him.

And as for the reason some of the critics here think GGG has no leverage and needs to cave to 155...well just because they have a whore's mentality doesn't mean GGG's got one. What if GGG doesn't care about the Canelo PPV $? He's already making at least $1.5 mil a fight? At 3 or 4 times a year, that's more than enough for most people. And if he's got all the belts at MW, eventually Canelo and other potential big $ fights will have to come to him.

[texasboi15]

newbie get some knowledge

912 posts and zero reputation you have...says it all really

Get some knowledge newbie

I reached the semi finals of the ABA championships twice at the 68 kilo limit ...which is just above welterweight

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[spanishboxing]

Canelo is a 3:1 favorite
Ggg is a 18:1 favorite! Against Peter Wade. Who KNOW one has heard of EVER. GTFO of here with that BS farce talk...

Canelo being a 3/1 favorite vs Khan a WW says alot about his boxing skills. .that means ppl think Khan has a good chance to beat Canelo. .at least wade is a MW..both mismatches. .but khan is a WW. .canelo doesn't want to fight a MW. .sht not even a Jr MW. .what would be da odds on a 3G vs Khan fight?. .yes Khanelo is a $ fight..business fight..bigger event compare to 3G vs wade...it's still a joke of a fight. .a WW fighting a MW at a CW of 155 for da MW title..another name for Canelo resume. .most of y'all worry about what type of $ a fighter makes than him fighting a legit boxer. .Wade is a mw mandatory. .canelo doesn't want to fight his mandatory which will bring him more $ than khan.

[hitking]

With that linguistic ability, it sounds like you know a lot about living paycheck to paycheck. Maybe once you've learnt basic literacy (which is a prerequisite for any well paying job other than drug dealing and pimping girls out - but those do require numeracy) you can try to cast an implication on my earning ability.

As an aside, what is your fascination with having lots of money? Does it mean you've succeeded in life? Does it make you better than other people? Does being rich make you happy?

To me, that doesn't hold up, because Floyd went bankrupt once (and is probably going to go that way again), but we can probably agree that even if he didn't have a cent to his name he's been fairly successful. We could also probably extend this, to nurses who might not get paid a lot of money, but are probably quite content helping people. I'd also probably not say that whilst Bashar Al-Assad has millions in wealth, that he's a better person than Ghandi was. The richest man in the world was the Roman Marcus Crassus, who set houses on fire, bought them cheap, then put them out. I don't think he's a better person than even me, and I have nothing close to the amount of money he had.

As to being happy, Markus Persson developed a really popular video game called Minecraft which he sold to Microsoft for $1 billion. He's depressed, now, though, because he can't trust anyone, and his wife divorced him.

I don't know why I'm expecting any kind of intelligent reply from you, however, becoz u spek liek a basic muf.ucka dat failed high skool nd now werks in Wal-Mart.

So how much do you make a year?

[kafkod]

Some of you are missing the point here. GGG is looking at being the undisputed middleweight champ, with or without a Canelo fight. He doesn't have to fight him. The only one who loses is Canelo whether in a fight with GGG, at the negotiating table with his ****** 155 lb fairy tale weight class or with his fans. GGG's stock will only continue climbing while Canelo's will plummet should he not fight GGG for sticking to his 155 lb. demand.

Canelo will cave or be forever viewed as having ducked Golovkin. That won't fly with his recent desire to be known as willing to fight the best. He does want to exploit his last moments of championship level boxing, so maybe he will back out for health reasons. Future health reasons.

Good points here. If Canelo fought a WW then ducked his mando it would be very bad for his image and future marketability.

[kafkod]

Middleweight is from 155 to 160 lbs so what's your point? The fight will still be within the Middleweight limit if it's at 155... Also, didn't Lil G ask Ward to loose 4 lbs if he wanted to fight him or didn't he say he'll go down to 154 lbs to fight Mayweather, LOL talk about something being ass backwards right.. Go back to bed lil boy you obviously dont know **** about boxing and just another Lil G dung rider.

GGG wasn't trying to defend a SMW title against Ward.

And 164 is within the SMW limit yeah?

Ward said he would go down to 160 for Floyd, so why couldn't he go to 164 for Golovkin?

If you are going to be ******, at least be consistant with your ******ity.

[lazaron72]

Canelo is a joke , a bully. He comes fight night at 170s and fights at 155 ?
When middleweight is 160 ...
He only fights small guys , don't dare to fights guys at his own weight class ...a joke .

Him and Leo panticruz should be ashamed of themselves...

Hit and not be hit ; can not hit what you don't see .

[Bronx2245]

Did you just try to equate Daniel Jacobs and Klitchko? You can't really be that ****** can you? I mean.. I'm at a loss for words

Jacobs couldn't sell out Barclays in his hometown, drawing 8k fans live and barely 300k viewers. He barely got a million bux, and even that was because Haymon overpays his people. On the other spectrum, here's the headline for Fury-Klitchko:

Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury worth over £30m with heavyweight showdown set for 55,000 sell-out

I don't think I should even mention the fact that Fury had no choice but to give up his IBF because of the rematch clause.

Please stop. Just..

Danny Jacobs is a big step up from Dominic Wade! I'm just sayin'! Hey, but keep the IBF belt. Don't agree to a catch weight with Canelo, and get the WBC belt, and scream to the world "I unified the MW division!" Just don't be mad when the world screams back "Who gives a ****?

[hitking]

The second biggest fight of 2015 was fought at a 155 catchweight for a middleweight belt. In which the "defending beltholder" threw the belt in the trash during the fight week.so it was essentially a vacant belt on the line for one fighter. The fight was likely the highest grossing fight in the last decade that didn't include Mayweather or Pacquiao. So the notion that belts matter is ridiculous.