Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: Canelo Improved A lot, But My Guy is Better

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Can't say I see a clear winner in this fight. Canelo has faced undoubtedly better opposition, so it's hard to say that Golovkin has it in the bag simply because he's been crushing cans. Canelo has wins against really good fighters, a few of which some people said he wasn't supposed to beat.

If he beat Golovkin I wouldn't be surprised. He has the skill set and the power to do so.

Really good fighters? I'm not sure they are as good as some like to say. At least not as much. There is a reason GGG tops Canelo in all p4p list worth a damn.

Let's look. Canelo resume reads good, until you look at some things.

Trout, umm not exactly that good after all. Hasn't done jack. He beat Cotto, but Cotto was already losing. Cotto only looked good recently fighting a weight drained Geale.

Angulo, same guy who got beat by Kirkland. The Kirkland that Ishida took his zero with a 3rd round KO. Angulo was also inactive and had to drop some weight.

Cotto, well he is still decent, not great. But he was 20 pounds lighter and too old and shop warn.

Mosley, way too small and old to be a threat.

Kirkland, by this point Kirkland was out 18 months and was really heavy. Had to drop a staggering 55 pounds to make 155. He could barley talk coming into the pre-fight interview.

Lara, here may be a decent one, we really don't know. Lara hasn't exactly set the world on fire. No p4p ranking worth a note. Got dropped twice by Angulo. I just explained how Angulo faired against Kirkland.


Funny thing is, most of those fighters wouldn't even try GGG. They know what would happen. Lara talks, but he never contacts K2. Usually waits until GGG has fights scheduled to pipe up.

CANELOS resume has some names, (especially for 25) but his wins have often come against guys who were inactive before they fought him (which ironically so has Khan). GGG doesn't have the economic advantage Canelo does.

Although, GGG has some decent fights too. Ishida beat an undefeated Kirkland, and GGG blew him out. Ishida has never been KO'd since, and is now a heavyweight.

Rubio had power and wasn't horrible. Murray, Maklin, Geale, all decent fighters. Lemieux was a World champ, so was Geale, so was Ouma.

GGG beats the same level of fighters Sergio did, but blew them out.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

ggg wont be caught within a 1000 mile radius of canelo out of fear he wont be able to duck him properly. If he can beat him move down in weight and do it. ggg is a hype job and Every haters answer to ANOTHER mexican who is DOMINATING the sport

Go down in weight, they are both MW champions. Canelo needs to start fighting guy in his own weight class. Kid can't make 154, tell him to man up

Dang it didnt take too long for you guys to find somebody elsw to hate after Mayweather retired lol

Didn't take long before Canelo started acting (worse than really) like Mayweather.

Funny De La Hoya would write a letter for Playboy complaining Floyd waiting guys out and drained Canelo. Ironic isn't it.

Things Canelo is doing Mayweather didn't:

Repeatedly use CW instead of moving up in weight when you can't make weight anymore.

Miss weight at 154, but pretend he is still a JRMW.

Create his own weight class.

Drain guys who were actually lighter than him.

All hate worthy acts of bs.

How is Canelo gonna have Khan come up from WW, but biiiiitch and moan about meeting GGG at the same division he has been competing in?

Canelo is earning this hate? He could of have this sport by the balls, but now people are seeing what he truly is.

[vitali1999]

The guys an ass clown though. Ass not arse and though not do, you ****** mothah. ...... if he was Canelo's coach he'd be saying the same **** about ggg.

[casheddie]

GGG would fight Canelo at 155 if he thought he could actually beat him.

I knew I'd find you here. Hating on Golovkin cause he won't fight in a division made up by a paper champ. lol

[tiliheels]

You know how many vacated belts have been won. They've never been seen as meaningless. Hell GGG just won his first in a fight. You don't see that dragging down us p4p numbers.

It's wishful thinking, but won't matter. Especially to casuals.

And, you do realize one of Canelo's titles came from a vacated belt. No one talks about it.

Actually, many champs did. It's not meaningless. He'll have three of four MW titles. A few because the guy holding the title was too vagina to actually fight.

A-side is a bs excuse. It works with ring size, money, etc. butt using it to drain guys in your own division, it's pathetic.

GGG should budge on the weight. Canelo will look bad saying he won't fight because GGG won't come down to his fictional weight class.

Especially in light that Canelo just had a WW come up 8 pounds, and will be 15 less than him.

Canelo would be the heavier fighter. There isn't a way to spen that.

GGG gets the title, eventually Canelo mans up. GGG isn't going anywhere.

Waiting him out will be as fruitless as waiting b-hop out at MW.



Sure, make 154 to fight a 147 pounder.

You don't go up one pound to fight a guy who will rehydrate to 180.

WBC has already said weight isn't a good enough reason to fail your mandatory.

With the Mexicans legends saying Canelo needs GGG, ginger vacating the green belt will look really bad.

There is a reason K2 hasn't budged on the weight.

who can GGG fight to make 8 million like khan is about to do?
im not about to talk boxing history with you when the truth is that boxing history is changing now with YOUTUBE AND FORUMS...WE DONT NEED HISTORIANS...we have it all at our fingertips...ggg NEEDS TO CHASE THAT MONEY A BElt cant feed your family but beating canelo means u get a rematch and u might be the Aside next time unless he ducks you

and yes his p4p rank is debated and nobody gives a damn about his fight with lemule...97k proves that...i respect the belt claim, but hell even jermain taylor was undisputed champ lol...AND LET ME ASK YOU...who gives af??

but when u take bside cuts and then get the win you become mayweather and pac like...ask oscar about that..he pooped on both of them and they both stole his shine!
GGG CAN BE MAYPAC OR HE CAN BE JT...

[doom_specialist]

Really good fighters? I'm not sure they are as good as some like to say. At least not as much. There is a reason GGG tops Canelo in all p4p list worth a damn.

Let's look. Canelo resume reads good, until you look at some things.

Trout, umm not exactly that good after all. Hasn't done jack. He beat Cotto, but Cotto was already losing. Cotto only looked good recently fighting a weight drained Geale.

Angulo, same guy who got beat by Kirkland. The Kirkland that Ishida took his zero with a 3rd round KO. Angulo was also inactive and had to drop some weight.

Cotto, well he is still decent, not great. But he was 20 pounds lighter and too old and shop warn.

Mosley, way too small and old to be a threat.

Kirkland, by this point Kirkland was out 18 months and was really heavy. Had to drop a staggering 55 pounds to make 155. He could barley talk coming into the pre-fight interview.

Lara, here may be a decent one, we really don't know. Lara hasn't exactly set the world on fire. No p4p ranking worth a note. Got dropped twice by Angulo. I just explained how Angulo faired against Kirkland.


Funny thing is, most of those fighters wouldn't even try GGG. They know what would happen. Lara talks, but he never contacts K2. Usually waits until GGG has fights scheduled to pipe up.

CANELOS resume has some names, (especially for 25) but his wins have often come against guys who were inactive before they fought him (which ironically so has Khan). GGG doesn't have the economic advantage Canelo does.

Although, GGG has some decent fights too. Ishida beat an undefeated Kirkland, and GGG blew him out. Ishida has never been KO'd since, and is now a heavyweight.

Rubio had power and wasn't horrible. Murray, Maklin, Geale, all decent fighters. Lemieux was a World champ, so was Geale, so was Ouma.

GGG beats the same level of fighters Sergio did, but blew them out.

I could just as easily pick apart Golovkin's resume, but I really don't want to waste the time doing so. Any boxing fan with half a brain and no bias will tell you that Alvarez has a better resume than Golovkin. Golovkin is 33 years old and his best win is Martin Murray. A guy who had already lost to the ghost of Sergio Martinez who was fighting with a bad knee.

You're a GGG fan and that's fine, but don't act like Canelo is going to be a walk in the park, and don't attempt making his resume look bad when the guy you like has an inferior one.

[Lords]

Your guy is better based on what? KO'ing cans that quit? Canelo has fought way better competition. This dude is delusional. #***outtahere

[kafkod]

GGG would fight Canelo at 155 if he thought he could actually beat him.

Whether GGG thinks he can beat Canelo at 155 is irrelevant.

It would be a MW title fight, sanctioned weigh limit, 160lbs.

[The plunger man]

[QUOTE=aboutfkntime;16468750]Nah, you're all bull****, as usual.....


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For ratings ended Jan. 27, 2016
Middleweight
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CANELO ALVAREZ


It burns, don't it ? :lol.

GOLOVKIN IS THE NUMBER 1 middleweight in the world and its not even up for debate ..no matter how much you cry...if you keep crying take this

[mexicanstyle]

Abel Sanchez, trainer for IBO/WBA/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs), says a unification with WBC middleweight champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (46-1-1, 32KOs) is the biggest fight in boxing.

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would love to c golovkin stand in fron of nelo like angulo and kirkland did, canelo has actually fought guys that made him improve his skills like mayweather,lara,trout and cotto to an extent where ggg has only one way to go and thats foreward...