Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: Canelo Improved A lot, But My Guy is Better

[bug0092]

If Canelo won't fight GGG at 160, because he claims he is not an actual MW, then he simply cannot go on calling himself the lineal MW champ. That would be absurd!

It's possible he could get a fight with Saunders after vacating the WBC. But if won the WBO title, and GGG had the other 3 belts, would Canelo's fans continue paying to watch him defend a paper catchweight title, while avoiding The Man in the division?

I can't see that happening. Golovkin is becoming too big a name himself to be sidelined and ignored like that.

I think Canelo will have to fight him, and if it's going to happen anyway, it's better for him to do it this year, as the champion, for the champion's share of the purse and with his pride and credibility still intact.

This is Golovkin's only leverage...the ability to force Canelo to vacate vs. Canelo's pride. I will say that if Canelo doesn't care and GGG takes the belt by having him stripped, it seems logical that Canelo will want and will get a fight with Saunders before Golovkin does. After all, if you were Saunders and wanted to cash in on your title, who'd you choose? I have a feeling Canelo wouldn't be so insistent on the weight either, and if so, it'd be and easy fight to make. Canelo will already have a big win over a Brit in Kahn -- maybe it'll help build a potential Saunders fight as far as generating more revenue over in the UK. Enough to give Saunders a substantially better payday than he'd see vs. GGG.

[kafkod]

This is Golovkin's only leverage...the ability to force Canelo to vacate vs. Canelo's pride. I will say that if Canelo doesn't care and GGG takes the belt by having him stripped, it seems logical that Canelo will want and will get a fight with Saunders before Golovkin does. After all, if you were Saunders and wanted to cash in on your title, who'd you choose? I have a feeling Canelo wouldn't be so insistent on the weight either, and if so, it'd be and easy fight to make. Canelo will already have a big win over a Brit in Kahn -- maybe it'll help build a potential Saunders fight as far as generating more revenue over in the UK. Enough to give Saunders a substantially better payday than he'd see vs. GGG.

Khan is getting $8million for fighting Canelo, but he is a much bigger name in the UK than Saunders and has many more fans worldwide.

K2 just offered Saunders $3million to try and get him for GGG. I can't see him being paid a lot more than than that for fighting Canelo. Whatever the total purse would be, I presume Canelo would expect to make more than GGG would have made for fighting BJS.

One thing GGG has going for him is that he would come to the UK for Saunders, which Canelo wouldn't do. That would generate a lot more UK money for BJS/Golovkin than BJS/Canelo.

Then there is the catchweight to take into account. Saunders is a big MW, so Caneloweight would be out for him. Fighting at 160 for the first time, against a durable, defensively sound boxer who can move and jab like Saunders, would be risky for a slow-footed plodder like Canelo. I'm not sure he would even want to fight BJS above 155.

[aboutfkntime]

Why are u quoting yourself again....no one talks to you...ur everybody's ignore list and you must be churning every night knowing that golovkin is the consensus number 1 middleweight in the world.....ur must be losing sleep over this golovkin more and more every day ....gumbo

at least I don't clean toilets for a living

Do you still write the names of great fighters in every 2nd post, to try and convince readers that you have a clue?

[aboutfkntime]

Mmmm ... Manny didn't beat any WW for a JMW title. He beat Margarito, who was an actual JMW. Then he vacated the title. He did NOT try to hang on to it by defending at the same catchweight, so everything I said in my comment appears to be accurate.

Manny is a paper champion because he won a world title at a catchweight, and GGG is a coward because he doesn't want to fight for a world title at a catchweight ... ?

Manny won a title at catchweight then vacated it, so he was a paper champion ... ?

Canelo also won a world title at a catchweight and is trying to hang on to it by defending at that same catchweight .... but he isn't a paper champion ... ?

And ... Golovkin has to fight for a world title at a catchweight, or he's a coward ... ?

Are you on medication, mate? That's a serious question, btw.

It is confirmed, just like I always thought.

I saw you post once that you hate Pacquiao..... and yet, your posts have always reeked of dopey pacstain to me.

There are so many things wrong with that fight I don't know where to begin.

Only a dopey pacstain would think that Manny Pacquiao is a genuine JMW champ.

He wouldn't rematch Cotto at 150 ffs.

And stating that Margarito is a JMW because he decisioned (ran) from Roberto Garcia after being suspended for 12 months for cheating..... is beyond absurd.

I will bold the unacceptable, just for you.

Margarito was a slow, plodding, WELTERWEIGHT, bum..... for a VACANT title (STOP: even at this stage, it is plainly obvious that title is bogus, welterweight/vacant proves it, but)..... at CATCHWEIGHT..... and he did not attempt to defend/legitimize that title, because he VACATED immediately.

You are an absolute fanboy, the worst ever.

[The plunger man]

at least I don't clean toilets for a living

Do you still write the names of great fighters in every 2nd post, to try and convince readers that you have a clue?

How old are you ? ...u sound like a spoils child who when loses an argument starts breaking they're toys in a tantrum.....you must be having nightmares every night over golovkin....t must eat you alive lol

[kafkod]

It is confirmed, just like I always thought.

I saw you post once that you hate Pacquiao..... and yet, your posts have always reeked of dopey pacstain to me.

There are so many things wrong with that fight I don't know where to begin.

Only a dopey pacstain would think that Manny Pacquiao is a genuine JMW champ.

He wouldn't rematch Cotto at 150 ffs.

And stating that Margarito is a JMW because he decisioned (ran) from Roberto Garcia after being suspended for 12 months for cheating..... is beyond absurd.

I will bold the unacceptable, just for you.

Margarito was a slow, plodding, WELTERWEIGHT, bum..... for a VACANT title (STOP: even at this stage, it is plainly obvious that title is bogus, welterweight/vacant proves it, but)..... at CATCHWEIGHT..... and he did not attempt to defend/legitimize that title, because he VACATED immediately.

You are an absolute fanboy, the worst ever.

I never said I hate Manny, I said I wasn't a fan and the sport will be better off without him and his business partner Mayweather.

I get it that you are one of those "fans" who's interest in boxing starts and ends with the Floyd/Manny saga.

It's over .... but you are addicted to trolling and bitching with fans of the enemy fighter, so you had to pick a new boxer to target and a new fan base to attack.

You're not interested in a fair and sensible discussion. All that matters is scoring points and getting one over on the enemy.

I'm hoping I might be able to talk you out of the dead end you are stuck in, but you insist on staying put and ****ing your head against the wall.

Honestly mate, I didn't care too much about the background to the fights you are talking about above when they happened and I'm certainly not going to get worked up over it now.

I'm just going to point out that Manny never tried to hang on to a title he was too small to defend by demanding a catchweight from a mandatory challenger.

[aboutfkntime]

I never said I hate Manny, I said I wasn't a fan and the sport will be better off without him and his business partner Mayweather.

I get it that you are one of those "fans" who's interest in boxing starts and ends with the Floyd/Manny saga.

It's over .... but you are addicted to trolling and bitching with fans of the enemy fighter, so you had to pick a new boxer to target and a new fan base to attack.

You're not interested in a fair and sensible discussion. All that matters is scoring points and getting one over on the enemy.

I'm hoping I might be able to talk you out of the dead end you are stuck in, but you insist on staying put and ****ing your head against the wall.

Honestly mate, I didn't care too much about the background to the fights you are talking about above when they happened and I'm certainly not going to get worked up over it now.

I'm just going to point out that Manny never tried to hang on to a title he was too small to defend by demanding a catchweight from a mandatory challenger.

Only a fanboy clown would attempt to insinuate that Pac is a genuine JMW champ.

I do not think I can recall a better example of a paper champ.

Wow the fans of today are horribly ignorant.

I get your hustle, but you are totally clueless when it comes to picking what to defend and what to leave.

[aboutfkntime]

How old are you ? ...u sound like a spoils child who when loses an argument starts breaking they're toys in a tantrum.....you must be having nightmares every night over golovkin....t must eat you alive lol

toiletman.....

..... do you still include the names of great fighters in every 2nd post, to try and convince readers that you have a clue? LAWLLLLL

Dude, that was soooo obvious

[icha]

Khan is getting $8million for fighting Canelo, but he is a much bigger name in the UK than Saunders and has many more fans worldwide.

K2 just offered Saunders $3million to try and get him for GGG. I can't see him being paid a lot more than than that for fighting Canelo. Whatever the total purse would be, I presume Canelo would expect to make more than GGG would have made for fighting BJS.

One thing GGG has going for him is that he would come to the UK for Saunders, which Canelo wouldn't do. That would generate a lot more UK money for BJS/Golovkin than BJS/Canelo.

Then there is the catchweight to take into account. Saunders is a big MW, so Caneloweight would be out for him. Fighting at 160 for the first time, against a durable, defensively sound boxer who can move and jab like Saunders, would be risky for a slow-footed plodder like Canelo. I'm not sure he would even want to fight BJS above 155.

you don't think that BJS will take the canelo fight for a lil less money? when fighting canelo is not only about the money, but also the fame and exposure that you get if you beat him...