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  • Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
    Sugar just accept it .....it was illegal.....it was not authorised by NSAC and yet USADA still carried it out.......applying for 21 days after the fight is also something very shady....u should just man up bro and admit it what he did was not right.......it's plain to see
    You're wrong. IV use was permitted by NSAC for any reason in any amount. A lot of you in this thread are very confused, so I'll say it again.

    IV USE WAS 100% LEGAL IN NEVADA, FOR ANY REASON, IN ANY AMOUNT.

    Floyd didn't do anything wrong.

    There is nothing shady about submitting your exemption paperwork a couple weeks after the fight. It takes time for doctors and lawyers to prepare their official reports when hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake. Floyd & Manny agreed on the length of time allowable to prepare paperwork of this nature and everything was done by the book 100%.

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    • Originally posted by Rath View Post
      What did i just told you and i will repeat it for the nth time.

      establish first if floyd was dehydrated on may 1st then we will talk about TUE.

      you keep deflecting since you can not prove floyd was dehydrated.

      TUE is not necessary in the first place if floyd was not dehydrated don't you think?

      don't worry i will not shy away and deflect and divert from this statement that you presented. seem authentic but lets deal with that later.

      prove that floyd was dehydrated why is that so hard for you?

      USADA and the paramedics determined he was dehydrated. You are the one claiming otherwise. The onus is on you to prove that he wasn't dehydrated and you can't prove that because you weren't there. USADA was there and the paramedic was there. Not you. Your opinion on the matter is based purely on obsessive fanboy delusion. Nothing more.

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      • Originally posted by Rath View Post
        IF a drug testing agency could give retroactive TUE 21 days after the fight i don't think i would believe their test result for that same guy they granted TUE.

        how many boxers ever avail of TUE much less retroactive TUE.?

        and how many was granted 21 days later?
        manny & floyd voluntarily agreed on how much time was allowable for doctors & lawyers to prepare and submit the paperwork. floyd's team submitted their request 17 days after the fight, as agreed by manny & floyd. everything was done by the book. you're just upset because manny lost the fight.

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        • Originally posted by original zero View Post
          Incorrect. Using an IV for rehydration was 100% legal in Nevada.
          No its not


          PROHIBITED ACTS;

          NAC 467.850; Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
          1.The administration of or use of any:
          (a)Alcohol
          (b)Stimulant; or
          (c)Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission

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          • Originally posted by original zero View Post
            You're wrong. IV use was permitted by NSAC for any reason in any amount. A lot of you in this thread are very confused, so I'll say it again.

            IV USE WAS 100% LEGAL IN NEVADA, FOR ANY REASON, IN ANY AMOUNT.

            Floyd didn't do anything wrong.

            There is nothing shady about submitting your exemption paperwork a couple weeks after the fight. It takes time for doctors and lawyers to prepare their official reports when hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake. Floyd & Manny agreed on the length of time allowable to prepare paperwork of this nature and everything was done by the book 100%.
            No it's not.

            PROHIBITED ACTS;

            NAC 467.850; Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
            1.The administration of or use of any:
            (a)Alcohol
            (b)Stimulant; or
            (c)Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission

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            • Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
              No it's not.

              PROHIBITED ACTS;

              NAC 467.850; Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
              1.The administration of or use of any:
              (a)Alcohol
              (b)Stimulant; or
              (c)Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission
              He didnt have any alcohol, stimulant or drug. He had vitamins and saline for rehydration wich is NOT illegal. The whole reason fanboys and haters are making a big deal out of this is because he used an "IV" to get the vitamins.

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              • Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                No it's not.

                PROHIBITED ACTS;

                NAC 467.850; Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
                1.The administration of or use of any:
                (a)Alcohol
                (b)Stimulant; or
                (c)Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission
                But that is still under the context that a commission, and in this case Nevada, would be doing the drug testing. The NSAC gave full authority to USADA to oversee drug testing. More importantly, ''(c)... has not been approved by the commission.'' Therefore if it's approved by the commission it's ok?

                Which by the way, what would the need be for Drug or Injection? ''Substances'' correct? ''Banned Substances?'' Would the NSAC challenge USADA's drug testing protocols because they claim it was dehydration?

                There's nothing on this.

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                • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                  No its not
                  Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                  No it's not.

                  PROHIBITED ACTS;

                  NAC 467.850; Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
                  1.The administration of or use of any:
                  (a)Alcohol
                  (b)Stimulant; or
                  (c)Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission
                  Both of you are wrong. Using a drug or injection that has not been approved is prohibited, but saline & vitamin C *are* approved and therefore 100% legal.

                  I am a licensed promoter and my attorneys have read all of the rules thoroughly. Both of you have misread a very simple sentence. Don't quit your day jobs.

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                  • Originally posted by original zero View Post
                    Both of you are wrong. Using a drug or injection that has not been approved is prohibited, but saline & vitamin C *are* approved and therefore 100% legal.

                    I am a licensed promoter and my attorneys have read all of the rules thoroughly. Both of you have misread a very simple sentence. Don't quit your day jobs.
                    Show any NSCA documentation giving a blanket approval to IVs. The very next section of the rules says what is approved and saline IVs aren't on the list.

                    4.  The following types of drugs or injections are approved by the Commission:

                    (a) Antacids, such as Maalox.

                    (b) Antibiotics, antifungals or antivirals that have been prescribed by a physician.

                    (c) Antidiarrheals, such as Imodium, Kaopectate or Pepto-Bismol.

                    (d) Antihistamines for colds or allergies, such as Bromphen, Brompheniramine, Chlorpheniramine Maleate, Chlor-Trimeton, Dimetane, Hismal, PBZ, Seldane, Tavist-1 or Teldrin.

                    (e) Antinauseants, such as Dramamine or Tigan.

                    (f) Antipyretics, such as Tylenol.

                    (g) Antitussives, such as Robitussin, if the antitussive does not contain codeine.

                    (h) Antiulcer products, such as Carafate, Pepcid, Reglan, Tagamet or Zantac.

                    (i) Asthma products in aerosol form, such as Brethine, Metaproterenol (Alupent) or Salbutamol (Albuterol, Proventil or Ventolin).

                    (j) Asthma products in oral form, such as Aminophylline, Cromolyn, Nasalide or Vanceril.

                    (k) Ear products, such as Auralgan, Cerumenex, Cortisporin, Debrox or Vosol.

                    (l) Hemorrhoid products, such as Anusol-HC, Preparation H or Nupercainal.

                    (m) Laxatives, such as Correctol, Doxidan, Dulcolax, Efferyllium, Ex-Lax, Metamucil, Modane or Milk of Magnesia.

                    (n) Nasal products, such as AYR Saline, HuMist Saline, Ocean or Salinex.

                    (o) The following decongestants:

                    (1) Afrin;

                    (2) Oxymetazoline HCL Nasal Spray; or

                    (3) Any other decongestant that is pharmaceutically similar to a decongestant listed in subparagraph (1) or (2).
                    Last edited by GTTofAK; 02-16-2016, 04:51 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                      Show any NSCA documentation giving a blanket approval to IVs.
                      NSAC rules list the things you CAN'T take. They don't make a list of things you CAN take because the list would be endless. Apples, fish oil, tangerines, spinach, etc. They do list *medications* you can take, but vitamin C is not a medication.

                      http://www.usada.org/usada-statement...ts-pro-boxing/

                      "Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program."

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