who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[GTTofAK]

They didn't make it sound like anything. You are simply an idiot.

How would you know you didn't even read it. I did.

If it was so immaterial, why were you arguing about it and digging your grave, fool? And aren't you tired of being wrong yet?

No just making fun of your ****** ass thinking you have a point. You dont. That they were testing for easily detectable synthetic AAS doesn't' mean that they were doing tests to detect TRT.

Did you even read my last post? Come on man, reading comprehension. Use it. I don't have time to walk you through the ABC's right now.

Its not a question of reading comprehension its a question of you knowing jack **** about AAS and testing. A test that detects d-bol will not detect testosterone. D-bol is not supposed to be there, testosterone is.

But according to you, they were all cheating.

All? No but the ones with abnormal T/E ratios and test levels are. While there are people who do suffer from endocirne problems that can result in such results. Such endocrine problems would preclude a man from being an elite athlete. You cant have untreated hypogonadism and be an elite male athlete. So sicne they dont have untreated hypogonadism they are obviously doping.

And what about the other tests that were testing for it? What did you have to say about that? Oh yea, that's right, it didn't fit your agenda. You said the UEFA can't be used because it doesn't test for TRT. Let's continue...

What other tests? You are speaking nonsense.

About Jones test, here is the head of an accredited WADA laboratory in Montreal. Enjoy![/B]

[B]Dr. Christiane Ayotte, the head of the WADA-accredited laboratory in Montreal, saw no problem with Jones' T/E ratio.
"One way to manipulate a T/E ratio downward would be to take epitestosterone, but Ayotte said that would be easily detected in a screening.

And there is the ******ity and your ignorance. A testosterone test tests for 2 thigns. T/E ratio and total free testosterone and epitestosterone. You need to do two things to beat a testosterone test.

#1 Take epitestosterone to lower the T/E ratio.

#2 Take an IV to lower the concentration of both test and epitest.

So no it is not easily caught in screening because you can easily take an IV to lower the total epitest.

I am sorry, but such T/E values are not at all abnormal[/COLOR]," she said. " … The administration of epitestosterone is easily detected. It does not give a small increase that looks natural, but a huge peak that is very difficult to control. I have seen only one case of attempted masking with epitestosterone and it was readily detected.

"Epitestosterone is not metabolized rapidly and stays high. An epitestosterone urine sample does not look like the ones you sent me."

What do you expect them to say? 'Yes our test can be easily beaten by taking epitest and an IV?'

Lets look at he ******ity of her statement. BALCO beat the testers for years using the cream and the clear, testosterone and epitestosterone. And they aren't the only ones. Yet this ***** says that she has only seen one attempted case. Come on you cant be that ****ing ******.

If anything this dumb ***** confirms how easy it is to beat the test. In only 1 case was someone so ****** as to get their epitest so high that it could be detected.

Thanks for proving my point. If you think their lab only had one person ever try and beat their test with epitestesterone you are an absolute dumbass.

I'll make this very simple, idiot. If, as you insinuate, that all you need to prove someone is cheating is for them to have abnormal T/E ratio, then why isn't that the only standard for a negative test?

Simple the testers still have yet to catch up. Look at he dumb ***** you posted. Do you honestly think that only one person has ever tried to beat the test using epitest? The testers are so damn far behind the dopers that this lab has caught only one person masking with epitest.

If it was so ****ing easy to catch people masking testosterone with epitestosterone this lab should have caught more than 1 dont you think?

Your Logical conclusion: There must be (not maybe...must be) something wrong with the tests. There is no way someone with abnormal T/E ratio is clean because it doesn't fit my agenda.

There is no logical explanation for such an abnormally low T/E ration and borderline high testosterone which is what we have in Froids. While there are serious endocrinological conditions that can cause a low T/E ratio they are also associated with low testosterone. I dare you to find any endocrinological condition that includes both a low TE ratio and borderline high testosterone.

The natural conditions that cause a low TE ratio such as hypogandism preclude a man from being an elite athlete.

To beat a testosterone test you need to do two things.

#1 Take epitestosterone to drop your TE ratio.

#2 Take an IV to lower the free test and free epitest.

We have evidence of Froid doing both.

[travestyny]

Blah blah blah...

Let me make this even more clear.

On one side, we have the head of a WADA accredited laboratory.

On the other side...You, who is a proven idiot.

Sorry, you lose. No one would ever side with you (except fanatics with the same agenda) over this issue. No matter how many times you come back writing about what goes on in your muddled head, no one will take you seriously, especially after you've been torn to shreds by multiple posters here.

Kick rocks, kid. It's over.

[Spoon23]

How would you know you didn't even read it. I did.



No just making fun of your ****** ass thinking you have a point. You dont. That they were testing for easily detectable synthetic AAS doesn't' mean that they were doing tests to detect TRT.




Its not a question of reading comprehension its a question of you knowing jack **** about AAS and testing. A test that detects d-bol will not detect testosterone. D-bol is not supposed to be there, testosterone is.




All? No but the ones with abnormal T/E ratios and test levels are. While there are people who do suffer from endocirne problems that can result in such results. Such endocrine problems would preclude a man from being an elite athlete. You cant have untreated hypogonadism and be an elite male athlete. So sicne they dont have untreated hypogonadism they are obviously doping.



What other tests? You are speaking nonsense.



And there is the ******ity and your ignorance. A testosterone test tests for 2 thigns. T/E ratio and total free testosterone and epitestosterone. You need to do two things to beat a testosterone test.

#1 Take epitestosterone to lower the T/E ratio.

#2 Take an IV to lower the concentration of both test and epitest.

So no it is not easily caught in screening because you can easily take an IV to lower the total epitest.



What do you expect them to say? 'Yes our test can be easily beaten by taking epitest and an IV?'

Lets look at he ******ity of her statement. BALCO beat the testers for years using the cream and the clear, testosterone and epitestosterone. And they aren't the only ones. Yet this ***** says that she has only seen one attempted case. Come on you cant be that ****ing ******.

If anything this dumb ***** confirms how easy it is to beat the test. In only 1 case was someone so ****** as to get their epitest so high that it could be detected.

Thanks for proving my point. If you think their lab only had one person ever try and beat their test with epitestesterone you are an absolute dumbass.



Simple the testers still have yet to catch up. Look at he dumb ***** you posted. Do you honestly think that only one person has ever tried to beat the test using epitest? The testers are so damn far behind the dopers that this lab has caught only one person masking with epitest.

If it was so ****ing easy to catch people masking testosterone with epitestosterone this lab should have caught more than 1 dont you think?



There is no logical explanation for such an abnormally low T/E ration and borderline high testosterone which is what we have in Froids. While there are serious endocrinological conditions that can cause a low T/E ratio they are also associated with low testosterone. I dare you to find any endocrinological condition that includes both a low TE ratio and borderline high testosterone.

The natural conditions that cause a low TE ratio such as hypogandism preclude a man from being an elite athlete.

To beat a testosterone test you need to do two things.

#1 Take epitestosterone to drop your TE ratio.

#2 Take an IV to lower the free test and free epitest.

We have evidence of Froid doing both.

That's an ace served bud!

The thing is TravestyNY has tunnel vision when it comes to Floyd. He segregates what he can defend and what he can't. In this case he will pretend he again has a comprehension disorder since facts will drown him again lol

Don't expect him to admit you owned him, but you did.

Cheers!

[Lester Tutor]

Lets look at he ******ity of her statement. BALCO beat the testers for years using the cream and the clear, testosterone and epitestosterone. And they aren't the only ones. Yet this ***** says that she has only seen one attempted case. Come on you cant be that ****ing ******.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEQfjowW_Y&t=1m02s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEQfjowW_Y&t=1m02s

[Lester Tutor]

Let me make this even more clear.

On one side, we have the head of a WADA accredited laboratory.

On the other side...You, who is a proven idiot.

Sorry, you lose. No one would ever side with you (except fanatics with the same agenda) over this issue. No matter how many times you come back writing about what goes on in your muddled head, no one will take you seriously, especially after you've been torn to shreds by multiple posters here.

Kick rocks, kid. It's over.

they sign up for a bank account and the banker says, ''38% interest is actually not that bad.'' Pac fanatic says, ''ok...where do I sign..''

salesman says, ''hey Pacroid fan, you need this 4K tv set with all the trimmings let's open you a line of credit...'' pacroid fans say, ''ok...where do I sign.''

pacroid fan scratches head for a good 7min before speaking, ''uhhhh, you mean there's really dirty politics in sports and networks control everything like Conte had mentioned...uhhhhh?'' Conte says, ''that's show bizness baby!''

[GTTofAK]

On one side, we have the head of a WADA accredited laboratory.

Yeah, and what did she say?

'We've only caught one person masking test with epitest.'

If you ever wanted definitive evidence that the testers are miles behind the dopers that is it. I'd say 'the dog didn't bark' but we know you are too ****ing ****** to get literally quotes.

[travestyny]

they sign up for a bank account and the banker says, ''38% interest is actually not that bad.'' Pac fanatic says, ''ok...where do I sign..''

salesman says, ''hey Pacroid fan, you need this 4K tv set with all the trimmings let's open you a line of credit...'' pacroid fans say, ''ok...where do I sign.''

pacroid fan scratches head for a good 7min before speaking, ''uhhhh, you mean there's really dirty politics in sports and networks control everything like Conte had mentioned...uhhhhh?'' Conte says, ''that's show bizness baby!''

lol. It's truly pathetic. I feel sorry for these clowns.

[travestyny]

Yeah, and what did she say?

'We've only caught one person masking test with epitest.'

If you ever wanted indicative evidence that the testers are miles behind the dopers that is it.

Ha Ha Ha you ****ing owned yourself.

Once again, this is quite simple.

Dr. Christiane Ayotte -- Head of at least 1 WADA accredited laboratory.

GTTofAK -- Head of ????? WADA accredited laboratories.


When you can replace the question marks with a number above zero, this conversation can continue. If you can't:

Shut your dumb a$$ up and bow down, clown. Point black, period. It's over.

[GTTofAK]

Dr. Christiane Ayotte -- Head of at least 1 WADA accredited laboratory.

What do you expect here to say?

'Our test is easily beaten.'

She proved it herself when she said that they had caught only one person masking test with epitest. That is the cream and the clear its the most common doping protocol used to beat the test. If it was so easy to detect they should have caught more than one guy dont you think?

[Spoon23]

Yeah, and what did she say?

'We've only caught one person masking test with epitest.'

If you ever wanted definitive evidence that the testers are miles behind the dopers that is it. I'd say 'the dog didn't bark' but we know you are too ****ing ****** to get literally quotes.

That's why he is red since 2008. No one agrees with travestNY not even fl0mos lol

Him being that fuvking ****** has been a fact ever since. Your wasting your time talking to a dimwit.

Think about it, how would you feel convincing a clown to understand a serious topic. That's what your dealing with here bud.

That guy won't know he got owned even if Floyd said he did lol