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  • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
    so why he needs 750ml to rehydrate himself, which only serves for severe cases of dehydration, i though Ariza did a good job?

    which is it did he do a good job or not?

    yes or no
    lol. You have low comprehension, don't you.

    Yes, Ariza did a great job showing him how to REHYDRATE. I'm using caps for a reason.

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      lol. You have low comprehension, don't you.

      Yes, Ariza did a great job showing him how to REHYDRATE. I'm using caps for a reason.
      Okay got it. Leaving an athlete so dehydrated that he needed 750ml of IVS to rehydrate Floyd. Is definitely a damn fine job in keeping Floyd hydrated.

      Ariza definitely did a fine good job. Since Floyd had to be severely dehydrated to even consider IV treatment.

      Yup, Ariza did his job well alright, that is if being severely dehydrated is part of being a great conditioning coach hahaha

      Good job Ariza for severely dehydrating Floyd that he needed IVS.

      You can't have it both ways bud. That's why you are who you are. A fl0mo who needs to understand the complexities of cheating.

      Bye bye.

      Next..
      Last edited by Spoon23; 02-26-2016, 11:47 PM.

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      • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        lol. You have low comprehension, don't you.

        Yes, Ariza did a great job showing him how to REHYDRATE. I'm using caps for a reason.
        statement no.1 "Ariza keeps track of his hydration to keep him in hydrated good shape for the fight"

        statement no. 2 " the result of statement no.1 is floyd is never in dehydrated state at any time.

        statement no.3 therefore why do you need to rehydrate if you are not dehydrated in the first place?

        logic genius floyd fan logic.

        the way your logic work is that

        Ariza keeps track of floyd health/hydration

        ariza waits for floyd to get dehydrated and then tell him how to rehydrate.

        lol classic

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        • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          Okay got it. Leaving an athlete so dehydrated that he needed 750ml of IVS to rehydrate Floyd. Is definitely a damn fine job in keeping Floyd hydrated.

          Ariza definitely did a fine good job. Since Floyd had to be severely dehydrated to even consider IV treatment.

          Yup, Ariza did his job well alright, that is if being severely dehydrated is part of being a great conditioning coach hahaha

          Good job Ariza for severely dehydrating Floyd that he needed IVS.

          You can't have it both ways bud. That's why you are who you are. A fl0mo who needs to understand the complexities of cheating.

          Bye bye.

          Next..
          He performed well enough to win, so I'd say Ariza did a great job, sure.

          Didn't Mayweather say REHYDRATE? Sorry that you're not finding the answers that you want.

          It's ok, little buddy. Face your fears. No harm in your idol losing to the greatest of this generation.

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            He performed well enough to win, so I'd say Ariza did a great job, sure.

            Didn't Mayweather say REHYDRATE? Sorry that you're not finding the answers that you want.

            It's ok, little buddy. Face your fears. No harm in your idol losing to the greatest of this generation.
            Sure,

            It just shows you have a low standards for condition coaches.

            If severely dehydrated athletes that needs IV is a good thing. Then I guess I don't want your opinion in hydration hahaha

            # oh and the thing is Froid roid is winning the polls, shows there is more to it than meets the eye, but off course I don't expect you to comprehend that part since your still on the red since 2008 lmao

            See you around chap!

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            • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
              ........... boxing's politics is not rocket science, and as Victor Conte stated, the networks are the sole power players, and ironically, he was criticizing HBO. lol
              lets laugh together .....

              Here is what Victor Conte said about this IV Scandal

              "“I don’t get it,” Conte says.
              There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use is clearly against the rules.

              Also, from a medical point of view, if they’re administering what they said they did, it doesn’t make sense to me. There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you’d have far greater benefits. It’s very su****ious to me. I can tell you that IV drugs clear an athlete’s system more quickly than drugs that are administered by subcutaneous injection. So why did USADA make this decision? Why did they grant something that’s prohibited? In my view, that’s something federal law enforcement officials should be asking Travis Tygart.”"

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                There is no need for this to continue, really. Every single thing you've said is laughable, and I'm realizing that this is no longer worth my time.
                ..........................................
                ..........................................
                ..........................................
                ..........................................
                Response to your previous post.

                1.
                ADP02: "travestyny, WHy are you deflecting ......"
                travestyny Response: "Because ....."

                So you are admitting that you deflect!


                2.
                travestyny Response: "It's not USADA's job to talk to NSAC on behalf of Manny"

                ADP02 Response: USADA shot Manny down but tried to protect Floyd. Why is USADA taking sides?

                Secondly, according to NSAC, USADA did this all wrong and should be letting the NSAC know .... :
                "“The TUE for Mayweather’s IV - and the IV was administered at Floyd’s house, not in a medical facility, and wasn’t brought to our attention at the time - was totally unacceptable. I’ve made it clear to Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did.”


                3. ADP02 Response: "I said this already .... there is no transparency."
                travestyny Response: "Pacquaio negotiated for more transparency and it was granted."

                So now you are admitting that there is an issue with transparency!

                TO your point, Floyd was still allowed to get to use a prohibited method and had requested it like 18 days after the fight and the NSAC nor Manny knew about it until after the fight. Everyone was in the blind until after the fact. Even once they found out, you really think that the NSAC knows what really happened? You call that transparent?


                4.travestyny Response: You explained something by saying mayyyybe there were some bad people within USADA
                ADP02 Response: You do not get it. You may never get it. I BELIEVE YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IT!!!

                YOU keep on questioning us like as if USADA can hide everything and anything. Same with Floyd. That is not the way it works. WAKE UP!!! They need to be extra careful.

                I even gave you an example with Lance Armstrong. He still needed a retroactive prescription because the 3rd party lab still sent in a positive test. Get it? I doubt it!



                5. ADP02 Response: In the Lance Armstrong case, USADA was quoted as saying that its not ethical to get money from Lance's representatives. Well, that is what is going on with Floyd.
                travestyny Response: no response


                6. Memo Heredia:

                Well, I'll tell you, me and Alex, we're both in the area of science; we both are strength conditioners. In other words, we are colleagues. Actually, since you brought this up, Alex and I, you know, we met recently. He consulted with me as the strength conditioner for Floyd for this coming f!ght. So we sat down and we had a good conversation, very long, and we talked about conditioning things and possibly some other projects

                AH: Well, yes, he consulted me in some areas and then asked me to describe some possible things we could work with Floyd for this f!ght. You know, what angle I would take with Floyd for this particular f!ght. Obviously Alex and I have been against each other when he had Pacquiao and I had Marquez. You know, he's a great guy. He respects me and he respects my work and he admires my work, and I respect his and I admire his. We have two different systems. He has his own system and I have my system, but at the end of the day, it produces results. Now one thing that we discussed a lot is about presenting power punching for Floyd. Obviously his speed is amazing, his defense is incredible, so we talked different basis on that.


                Now go check out what Memo would say about
                SPIEGEL: What kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

                Heredia: Business ties. It was all about levels and dosing. I rarely spoke with Marion Jones. It was done through her coaches.



                7. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                travestyny Response: "..........."



                8. travestyny Response: "AND NSAC LISTENED TO THE EVIDENCE AND AGREED FLOYD DID NOTHING WRONG. THANKS FOR PUTTING THE NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN!"

                ADP02 Response: Evidence? Thanks for the laugh! With no transparency, all they (NSAC) recieved was:
                1) Floyd requested TUE on May 18
                2) USADA approved TUE
                3) TUE was for the following prohibited method: IV

                Also, Go check out my point 2 on what NSAC thought about this IV scandal. "Unacceptable"


                9. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated. You have been avoiding the initial topic and deflecting. I'm sure you will continue too!"
                travestyny Response: Deflected again!


                10. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                travestyny Response: "Pacquiao"

                11. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                travestyny Response: "Morales"

                12. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                travestyny Response: "NY commissions"

                13. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                travestyny Response: "I tripped you up"










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                Last edited by ADP02; 02-27-2016, 01:36 AM.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Response to your previous post.

                  1.
                  ADP02: "travestyny, WHy are you deflecting ......"
                  travestyny Response: "Because ....."

                  So you are admitting that you deflect!


                  2.
                  travestyny Response: "It's not USADA's job to talk to NSAC on behalf of Manny"

                  ADP02 Response: USADA shot Manny down but tried to protect Floyd. Why is USADA taking sides?

                  Secondly, according to NSAC, USADA did this all wrong and should be letting the NSAC know .... :
                  "“The TUE for Mayweather’s IV - and the IV was administered at Floyd’s house, not in a medical facility, and wasn’t brought to our attention at the time - was totally unacceptable. I’ve made it clear to Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did.”


                  3. ADP02 Response: "I said this already .... there is no transparency."
                  travestyny Response: "Pacquaio negotiated for more transparency and it was granted."

                  So now you are admitting that there is an issue with transparency!

                  TO your point, Floyd was still allowed to get to use a prohibited method and had requested it like 18 days after the fight and the NSAC nor Manny knew about it until after the fight. Everyone was in the blind until after the fact. Even once they found out, you really think that the NSAC knows what really happened? You call that transparent?


                  4.travestyny Response: You explained something by saying mayyyybe there were some bad people within USADA
                  ADP02 Response: You do not get it. You may never get it. I BELIEVE YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IT!!!

                  YOU keep on questioning us like as if USADA can hide everything and anything. Same with Floyd. That is not the way it works. WAKE UP!!! They need to be extra careful.

                  I even gave you an example with Lance Armstrong. He still needed a retroactive prescription because the 3rd party lab still sent in a positive test. Get it? I doubt it!



                  5. ADP02 Response: In the Lance Armstrong case, USADA was quoted as saying that its not ethical to get money from Lance's representatives. Well, that is what is going on with Floyd.
                  travestyny Response: no response


                  6. Memo Heredia:

                  Well, I'll tell you, me and Alex, we're both in the area of science; we both are strength conditioners. In other words, we are colleagues. Actually, since you brought this up, Alex and I, you know, we met recently. He consulted with me as the strength conditioner for Floyd for this coming f!ght. So we sat down and we had a good conversation, very long, and we talked about conditioning things and possibly some other projects

                  AH: Well, yes, he consulted me in some areas and then asked me to describe some possible things we could work with Floyd for this f!ght. You know, what angle I would take with Floyd for this particular f!ght. Obviously Alex and I have been against each other when he had Pacquiao and I had Marquez. You know, he's a great guy. He respects me and he respects my work and he admires my work, and I respect his and I admire his. We have two different systems. He has his own system and I have my system, but at the end of the day, it produces results. Now one thing that we discussed a lot is about presenting power punching for Floyd. Obviously his speed is amazing, his defense is incredible, so we talked different basis on that.


                  Now go check out what Memo would say about
                  SPIEGEL: What kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

                  Heredia: Business ties. It was all about levels and dosing. I rarely spoke with Marion Jones. It was done through her coaches.



                  7. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                  travestyny Response: "..........."



                  8. travestyny Response: "AND NSAC LISTENED TO THE EVIDENCE AND AGREED FLOYD DID NOTHING WRONG. THANKS FOR PUTTING THE NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN!"

                  ADP02 Response: Evidence? Thanks for the laugh! With no transparency, all they (NSAC) recieved was:
                  1) Floyd requested TUE on May 18
                  2) USADA approved TUE
                  3) TUE was for the following prohibited method: IV

                  Also, Go check out my point 2 on what NSAC thought about this IV scandal. "Unacceptable"


                  9. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated. You have been avoiding the initial topic and deflecting. I'm sure you will continue too!"
                  travestyny Response: Deflected again!


                  10. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                  travestyny Response: "Pacquiao"

                  11. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                  travestyny Response: "Morales"

                  12. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                  travestyny Response: "NY commissions"

                  13. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                  travestyny Response: "I tripped you up"










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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Response to your previous post.

                    1.
                    ADP02: "travestyny, WHy are you deflecting ......"
                    travestyny Response: "Because ....."

                    So you are admitting that you deflect!


                    2.
                    travestyny Response: "It's not USADA's job to talk to NSAC on behalf of Manny"

                    ADP02 Response: USADA shot Manny down but tried to protect Floyd. Why is USADA taking sides?

                    Secondly, according to NSAC, USADA did this all wrong and should be letting the NSAC know .... :
                    "“The TUE for Mayweather’s IV - and the IV was administered at Floyd’s house, not in a medical facility, and wasn’t brought to our attention at the time - was totally unacceptable. I’ve made it clear to Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did.”


                    3. ADP02 Response: "I said this already .... there is no transparency."
                    travestyny Response: "Pacquaio negotiated for more transparency and it was granted."

                    So now you are admitting that there is an issue with transparency!

                    TO your point, Floyd was still allowed to get to use a prohibited method and had requested it like 18 days after the fight and the NSAC nor Manny knew about it until after the fight. Everyone was in the blind until after the fact. Even once they found out, you really think that the NSAC knows what really happened? You call that transparent?


                    4.travestyny Response: You explained something by saying mayyyybe there were some bad people within USADA
                    ADP02 Response: You do not get it. You may never get it. I BELIEVE YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IT!!!

                    YOU keep on questioning us like as if USADA can hide everything and anything. Same with Floyd. That is not the way it works. WAKE UP!!! They need to be extra careful.

                    I even gave you an example with Lance Armstrong. He still needed a retroactive prescription because the 3rd party lab still sent in a positive test. Get it? I doubt it!



                    5. ADP02 Response: In the Lance Armstrong case, USADA was quoted as saying that its not ethical to get money from Lance's representatives. Well, that is what is going on with Floyd.
                    travestyny Response: no response


                    6. Memo Heredia:

                    Well, I'll tell you, me and Alex, we're both in the area of science; we both are strength conditioners. In other words, we are colleagues. Actually, since you brought this up, Alex and I, you know, we met recently. He consulted with me as the strength conditioner for Floyd for this coming f!ght. So we sat down and we had a good conversation, very long, and we talked about conditioning things and possibly some other projects

                    AH: Well, yes, he consulted me in some areas and then asked me to describe some possible things we could work with Floyd for this f!ght. You know, what angle I would take with Floyd for this particular f!ght. Obviously Alex and I have been against each other when he had Pacquiao and I had Marquez. You know, he's a great guy. He respects me and he respects my work and he admires my work, and I respect his and I admire his. We have two different systems. He has his own system and I have my system, but at the end of the day, it produces results. Now one thing that we discussed a lot is about presenting power punching for Floyd. Obviously his speed is amazing, his defense is incredible, so we talked different basis on that.


                    Now go check out what Memo would say about
                    SPIEGEL: What kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

                    Heredia: Business ties. It was all about levels and dosing. I rarely spoke with Marion Jones. It was done through her coaches.



                    7. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                    travestyny Response: "..........."



                    8. travestyny Response: "AND NSAC LISTENED TO THE EVIDENCE AND AGREED FLOYD DID NOTHING WRONG. THANKS FOR PUTTING THE NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN!"

                    ADP02 Response: Evidence? Thanks for the laugh! With no transparency, all they (NSAC) recieved was:
                    1) Floyd requested TUE on May 18
                    2) USADA approved TUE
                    3) TUE was for the following prohibited method: IV

                    Also, Go check out my point 2 on what NSAC thought about this IV scandal. "Unacceptable"


                    9. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated. You have been avoiding the initial topic and deflecting. I'm sure you will continue too!"
                    travestyny Response: Deflected again!


                    10. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                    travestyny Response: "Pacquiao"

                    11. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                    travestyny Response: "Morales"

                    12. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                    travestyny Response: "NY commissions"

                    13. ADP02 Response: "Still waiting for your proof that Floyd was severely dehydrated.......
                    travestyny Response: "I tripped you up"










                    .
                    Dang! You just annihilated travestNY from pillar to post over and over lol

                    Full burn lmao

                    You own Travestyny for at least a millenium hahaha

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                    • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                      where did you get that lance was flushing his system before each and every test?
                      He doesn't know what flushing means. He thought it's like how you flush shyit lol

                      Last edited by Spoon23; 02-27-2016, 07:56 AM.

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