who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[travestyny]

So now we know why you were deflecting all along. Now you admit that the reason you couldn't come up with valid evidence is because you had none and you think Floyd was dehydrated just because Floyd said so.

Floyd said just dehydrated, you said the same, USADA had trouble even saying it.


Well for your information, it takes more than to be dehydrated to get an IV. So that is why we keep on telling you that what occurred was all BS. If it was BS then there is a reason for all that, right? Floyd should have been investigated for perjury, distorting the truth, violation on multiple times on not giving a sample when requested due to Floyd's delays. Masking PEDs and more ......

This is not the first time this happened with Floyd. He has had them wait in the past too. There was a reason that the DCO had to come back and was supposedly with Floyd for 7 hours. Its because Floyd did not give a complete urine sample the first time. That means it was inadequate (insufficient). So the DCO had no choice but to wait and wait until Floyd was willing to give them what they wanted. Like I said, its not the first time Lance, I mean Floyd had them delay ......



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Where did I say he was dehydrated just because he said so?

My response mentioned actue and chronic, so why are you pretending I only mentioned dehydrated? I have no problem with Floyd being interrogated. Sure. Go for it if there is solid proof he lied.

However, Why didn't you answer my question?" I thought we were going 1:1...one question for one question.

By the way, read this before you respond.

http://behindthegloves.com/thomas-ha...yd-mayweather/

[travestyny]

Are you upset i said manny is a transexual?

Ive said alot of things. But you want to have a lengthy conversation about mannys manhood?

You Dont have answer. You win.

lol. This back and forth is getting hysterical.

But yo, check this article out and let me know what you think. I'm wondering what the Pacroaches think of this.

http://behindthegloves.com/thomas-ha...yd-mayweather/

[ADP02]

Where did I say he was dehydrated just because he said so?

My response mentioned actue and chronic, so why are you pretending I only mentioned dehydrated? I have no problem with Floyd being interrogated. Sure. Go for it if there is solid proof he lied.

However, Why didn't you answer my question?" I thought we were going 1:1...one question for one question.

By the way, read this before you respond.

http://behindthegloves.com/thomas-ha...yd-mayweather/

You said that you didn't even know what "actue and chronic" meant. You want me to tell you what it meant? Is that your question?

I gotta go so will read later ....

What was your question?

[Dosumpthin]

I have no problem answering your questions but going by previous responses from Floyd fans, I need to wonder if you are willing to respond as well from your end.

At least you said that there is a probability that Floyd did cheat.


As for your question: Floyd had endless opportunities to cheat.

- Since Floyd has the say on if the fight is on, he knows when is the earliest testing can start. So Floyd could have started way before the announcement of the fight. Right?
- Floyd most probably micro-dosed. When? More than likely right after USADA comes and get a sample, Floyd would micro-dose and try to calculate when is the next time that USADA may come. If Floyd's team calculates wrong then they had to have a plan to delay the testing process.
- May 1st: Perhaps from experience, Floyd was not expecting USADA to be coming to get a sample right before the weigh in. Floyd was caught off guard. So they employed all the tricks in the book. They delayed giving the complete sample (it took 6+ hours) and had an IV just before USADA. This would be used to dilute/Masking purposes.

-I said its possible. I said its is probable according to thomas hauser md. I do not subscribe to his version of facts due to my abilty to reason logically.

-saying floyd decides when the testing starts is a non factor for two reasons.

First, there arent any boxers that are tested year round under wada code. So you can substitute floyds name with any fighter that submits to usada or vada. Its pointless for you and hauser to make this an issue for FLOYD. Boxing in general ok. Maybe.

Sencondly, the implications there would mean floyd, or any boxer, would use this to take advantage of peds during a non testing period. Either for recovery or an advantage during training camp as per thomas hauser and victor conte.

Therefore there wouldnt be a need to "mask" or "microdose" being it will be out of their system.

-you say floyd most probably micro dose - ok - but as part of you conspiracies you imply floyd has major influence within usada. Same as hauser. It would be inconsitent to now imply otherwise. Floyds camp has no advanced knowledge of test dates and will not be given a pass in the event he fails a test. Hence the required emergeny delays/iv when they guess wrong.

This behavior would not support the claim of "150,000 usada is on his payroll" conspiracy.

Do you see what i mean as to floyd cant be guilty of EVERY conspiracy? is he the mastermind behind usada or not? This scenario as you describe says no. So any other evidence mentioning "toradol gatorade tue 750ml 150,000" wouldnt apply.

-You said floyd was caught of guard. This theory really make thomas hauser md look silly. Thomas hauser admitted in his response to usada that he was wrong stating that floyd was caught by testing officials. He recanted that accusation and adopted usada version of events into his own. This is alarming being that his original statement is the one that sent shock waves throughout the community.


So. Do you want to maybe provide another scenarior before we go into the details of you micro dosing theory? I ask because it is not cohesive with the other red flags you have presented thus far.

[Dosumpthin]

lol. This back and forth is getting hysterical.

But yo, check this article out and let me know what you think. I'm wondering what the Pacroaches think of this.

http://behindthegloves.com/thomas-ha...yd-mayweather/

Great read. Without a medical backround in sports medice i was able to come to some of the same logical conclusions as the author. Amazing.

[Lester Tutor]

Great read. Without a medical backround in sports medice i was able to come to some of the same logical conclusions as the author. Amazing.

Yeah, more interestingly enough, how many articles from Hauser (throughout Floyd's career) did he write anything about him?

It's clear as day. It discredits Hauser's opinion on Ali on the greatest fighters which would effect revenues from his boxing books. In realistic theory, this is why I stand by my signature. Look at the way Hollywood and BET or african music post 70s record labels operate to portray a status quo of African Americans. Only the naive take media for granted. TV is a powerful weapon.

there's a reason or cliche as to why the classic circus freak scenario escapes the ''master'' owner. plato's allegory of the cave..

Arum hated that Floyd would supersede him in general and no longer controled him. I love American politics!

[Twako]

So you have NO signs that you can describe is that right ? you know the signs you ask people to tell you , so again what are the signs ? and what dosages per kg is used to treat mild medium and severe , surely you must know the basis of your argument from the medical perspective ?

You dont need to be severely dehydrated to need IV , thats your first ignorant notion .

oh the irony.
you ask for signs when it's all there. floyd wasn't dehydrated, he was 150 weeks before. yet he got a huuuge amount of IV fluids.
yet, pac has this well-respected surgeon who confirms and stakes his career about pac's surgery, yet you always say it was all made up.
fvkkin idiot

[The Big Dunn]

oh the irony.
you ask for signs when it's all there. floyd wasn't dehydrated, he was 150 weeks before. yet he got a huuuge amount of IV fluids.
yet, pac has this well-respected surgeon who confirms and stakes his career about pac's surgery, yet you always say it was all made up.
fvkkin idiot

He didn't stake his career on anything. He got hired by Bob to perform the surgery. WHile I would believe it was honest in most cases this is Manny and Bob, the same Bob that hired his future son in law, a plastic surgeon, to perform unnecessary surgery on Manny 2 months after the JMM after saying he was "ready to go" for May (when he thought the May date was open and Floyd was going to jail).

Also, Bob and Freddy gave different accounts of when the injury occurred in the post fight press conference. Manny never mentioned the injury before that and his corner never inquired about the shoulder injury during the fight.

The reality is there is plenty of reasons to be skeptical, just as there is for Floyd taking the IV.

[SUBZER0ED]

I've been reading post about Floyd's Iv use for months......but this statement baffles me so much so I decided to post.

I thought it has been said and proven that NSAC ALLOWS IV method AT THE TIME.

However it was WADA that prohibits IV method unless there is a TUE. And USADA follows WADA code.

But the FACTS are IV METHOD WAS NOT BANNED UNDER NSAC.

Why do people still get this confused? Am I missing something? A lot of these conspiracy revolve around this misconeption. Almost as if the confusion is INTENTIONAL. Not saying you are doing it, but some of these posters have This information but continue to ignore it.

You know, there is some confusion on this subject. In the attached article, the USADA first states that saline & vitamin IV injections are not banned by the NSAC. However, The fact is that while the substances themselves are not banned, intravenous injection of them is banned by NSAC, whose regulations are in line with those of WADA. Furthermore, Bob Bennett states clearly, that the USADA has no authority to grant a TUE and the fact that Mayweather had the IV injection at his house, rather than a medical facility, "was totally unacceptable." While I stated earlier that there is no documented proof that Mayweather failed any PED tests, don't get it twisted; I fully believe that little snake did break the rules of the NSAC & WADA, and uses USADA because they are a joke of a PED testing agency & they're in his pocket. The sad thing is the fact that the NSAC only issued a stern warning to the USADA, rather than sanctioning it & Mayweather, speaks to the kind of money-making power that Floyd has. The commission didn't want to upset the apple cart & have Floyd fight in another state.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...cording-report

[Lester Tutor]

yet he got a huuuge amount of IV fluids.
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don't get brainwashed please. the funny thing is all the Floyd haters including industry heads poorly contextualized 50ml and 750ml like a bunch of idiots. didn't they say ''10 or 15 times the normal limit'' what the hell does that even mean? care for a patient via IV for a maximum of 50ml, or rather even more funnier, 50ml per 6 hour period? 200ml for a complete day? gtfoh.

easy work! saturday night live.

'huge amounts.'' dude a child can easily get 2000ml in a day for dehydration.