who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

They mention in the video that it was his left. Come on, bruh. Why would he start complaining about it in the 4th round (I believe) when he was winning the fight early on? That makes no sense. He clearly had a shoulder injury.

What does not make sense is that in 2 videos, Floyd indicates that it was his right shoulder. In one he clearly brings up the incident that happened in the Castillo I fight. Just use your thought process for Manny's shoulder injury.

Furthermore, was it torn or just a strain? If there was an injury, did Team Floyd exaggerate? Remember that they were ready to fight August 10. That is less than 3.5 months. 1.5 months away from training. Announcements would have had to be even sooner! Possible?


"His physician diagnoses a strained rotator cuff and Mayweather keeps quiet about it but speaks disparagingly about Castillo, predicting an easy win."


Floyd did nothing with his left? Looks pretty good to me and most of these are in the later rounds.



Raises left arm with the belts!




Raises left arm again ..... with the belts!




left punch then raises and pushes off with left




3 punch left combo ... if this was Manny, you would be laughing like crazy!!!

[ADP02]

I understand what you are saying. Of course it is not out of the realm of possibility that he called. My point is that...doesn't his statement make it seem less likely that he is telling the truth?

Just answer this please, and then let's retire it again for awhile.
Of everything about this shoulder injury, there is not one single thing that makes you scratch your head and say something seems off?

Hi shoulder injury made sense. It was reported that they took time off during training camp for his biggest fight of his life. Why take days off? Injuries!
Then there are videos of him about coming back from his layoff and doing 12 rounds with just his left arm. Why do that? Injuries!
Some of the sparring partners confirmed the injury.

A renowned doctor confirmed that Manny went to see him BEFORE and AFTER the fight and that he prescribed Manny meds. Meds were on the pre-fight form. Manny actually mentioned the injury to NSAC BEFORE the fight. USADA knew about the meds BEFORE the fight.

Other doctors confirmed by way of an MRI that the injury was there and healing well.

There were just too many people in the know to hide this from. Something would have come out if this was not true.

[travestyny]

What does not make sense is that in 2 videos, Floyd indicates that it was his right shoulder. In one he clearly brings up the incident that happened in the Castillo I fight. Just use your thought process for Manny's shoulder injury.

Furthermore, was it torn or just a strain? If there was an injury, did Team Floyd exaggerate? Remember that they were ready to fight August 10. That is less than 3.5 months. 1.5 months away from training. Announcements would have had to be even sooner! Possible?


"His physician diagnoses a strained rotator cuff and Mayweather keeps quiet about it but speaks disparagingly about Castillo, predicting an easy win."


Floyd did nothing with his left? Looks pretty good to me and most of these are in the later rounds.



Raises left arm with the belts!




Raises left arm again ..... with the belts!




left punch then raises and pushes off with left




3 punch left combo ... if this was Manny, you would be laughing like crazy!!!

1. Where were the videos that said it was his right arm? I didn't see him say that.

2. Did he complain about the injury during the fight? Did his team do any activity that showed he had an injury?

Are you trying to prove he had no injury? That's silly.

[ADP02]

1. Where were the videos that said it was his right arm? I didn't see him say that.

2. Did he complain about the injury during the fight? Did his team do any activity that showed he had an injury?

Are you trying to prove he had on injury? That's silly.

13:45
"I tore my rotator cuff. My arm was killing me. It was hurting so bad, it was one of the most painful feelings that I ever had."


Check it out here. In other threads about this, Floyd fans said it was his right shoulder and HBO had it wrong. Anything not the throw Floyd under the bus ...... but it is conflicting. Right?

Floyd indicates that he hurt his right shoulder!!!

[DinoCop]

You guys have nothing to do, right?

[travestyny]

13:45
"I tore my rotator cuff. My arm was killing me. It was hurting so bad, it was one of the most painful feelings that I ever had."


Check it out here. In other threads about this, Floyd fans said it was his right shoulder and HBO had it wrong. Anything not the throw Floyd under the bus ...... but it is conflicting. Right?

Floyd indicates that he hurt his right shoulder!!!

He NEVER said what shoulder. He showed how he threw the punch, but he didn't say what shoulder was injured.

It's silly for him to completely make up an injury at the point that he was winning the fight. Come on, bro. This doesn't make sense.

[travestyny]

Hi shoulder injury made sense. It was reported that they took time off during training camp for his biggest fight of his life. Why take days off? Injuries!
Then there are videos of him about coming back from his layoff and doing 12 rounds with just his left arm. Why do that? Injuries!
Some of the sparring partners confirmed the injury.

A renowned doctor confirmed that Manny went to see him BEFORE and AFTER the fight and that he prescribed Manny meds. Meds were on the pre-fight form. Manny actually mentioned the injury to NSAC BEFORE the fight. USADA knew about the meds BEFORE the fight.

Other doctors confirmed by way of an MRI that the injury was there and healing well.

There were just too many people in the know to hide this from. Something would have come out if this was not true.

ONE sparring partner said he had the injury and also said that the sparring partners were told about the injury. ANOTHER SPARRING PARTNER SAID HE HAD NO INJURY.

What exactly is meant by sparring with one hand? Does that mean actually sparring another person or does it mean in the ring with Freddie? Have you thought about that? I have a feeling they moreso mean hitting the pads and body armor with Freddie.

The other stuff we already went thru.

[Zaroku]

He NEVER said what shoulder. He showed how he threw the punch, but he didn't say what shoulder was injured.

It's silly for him to completely make up an injury at the point that he was winning the fight. Come on, bro. This doesn't make sense.

Come on dude, drop it, only PAC is being sued by his fans for being a liar. Drop it. Can't believe this silly conversation is still going on.

[travestyny]

Come on dude, drop it, only PAC is being sued by his fans for being a liar. Drop it. Can't believe this silly conversation is still going on.

We're just shooting the ****, man. No biggie. I know that the other members are sick of seeing this thread pop up, but it's not so serious. Just a little convo during my vacation time.

[Zaroku]

We're just shooting the ****, man. No biggie. I know that the other members are sick of seeing this thread pop up, but it's not so serious. Just a little convo during my vacation time.

You are overloading their pact@rd brains with stimulating convo. You and a few other posters are the sunshine of their lives. The sun doesn't rise unless PACman is involved.

Enjoy !!!!