who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

I'm not sure what you are trying to show here. We already have the doctor's timetable for Pac's return. We also have a bevy of medical documents that I've provided you with that talk about the protocol for recovery. What exactly are you trying to say?

You kept on saying after surgery, the athlete would be placed in a sling and rehab wouldn't start right away and no physical activities for a while. Sure we do not know if it was a partial or full but doesn't it sound su****ious that they were going to make the fight in August when the Castillo I fight was on April 20? When was surgery? April 25? August 10 gives Floyd no time to rehab. Right?

[travestyny]

The problem with what you are saying is you do not have the facts. Remember the word speculation?

I do not know which doctor nor do you but from what Roach said, he did. At one point Roach even commented that someone associated with Manny's doctor would fly from USA to help Manny with his rehab. Again, you do not have accurate information. You are trying to put 1 + 1 together but it may actually be 1+1+1-2+3

Nope. Come on now. Manny said he never did rehab. Your response is that maybe he is lying about that. lol. It's laughable.

You tried to justify that with Roach's statement. In this statement he admits that he rarely talks to Pac. You think it's believeable that he called the Phils to talk to his doctor that was doing rehab. Yes, that means the doctor was already in the Phils doing the rehab. Not sure why you choose to believe this crap.

You don't believe anything or anyone that doesn't fit your agenda, even Pac himself when it doesn't fit your agenda. lol

[travestyny]

You kept on saying after surgery, the athlete would be placed in a sling and rehab wouldn't start right away and no physical activities for a while. Sure we do not know if it was a partial or full but doesn't it sound su****ious that they were going to make the fight in August when the Castillo I fight was on April 20? When was surgery? April 25? August 10 gives Floyd no time to rehab. Right?

This is reaching a long distance, buddy. What information do you have about Mayweather's surgery? We do have information about Pacquaio's surgery. We know what type of tear it was. In fact, we know it was a tear of nearly 1.5 tendons. That says a lot.

I have no problem discussing Floyd's surgery if you can find some information about it.

[ADP02]

Nope. Come on now. Manny said he never did rehab. Your response is that maybe he is lying about that. lol. It's laughable.

You tried to justify that with Roach's statement. In this statement he admits that he rarely talks to Pac. You think it's believeable that he called the Phils to talk to his doctor that was doing rehab. Yes, that means the doctor was already in the Phils doing the rehab. Not sure why you choose to believe this crap.

You don't believe anything or anyone that doesn't fit your agenda, even Pac himself when it doesn't fit your agenda. lol

Your statement is not correct.

Roach said there was some initially but then Manny was doing it on his own. Maybe one may say he should have not just done it on his own but if you have done rehab yourself, you would know that most of it is done on your own.

Why do you believe a statement from Roach at 2:35 but not what he said 10 seconds later? That is unbelievable!

[ADP02]

This is reaching a long distance, buddy. What information do you have about Mayweather's surgery? We do have information about Pacquaio's surgery. We know what type of tear it was. In fact, we know it was a tear of nearly 1.5 tendons. That says a lot.

I have no problem discussing Floyd's surgery if you can find some information about it.

That is the problem with Floyd. There never is any information!!! You cannot find the doctor for his surgery, no MRI, ..... same goes with the IV scandal. Do you have the doctor's name? NO! That is because the doctor's name was Dr Alex Ariza. My words? No! Floyd thanked Dr Alex Ariza!



Just like Floyd and his fans, years later, team Floyd was still using the injury as an excuse. Yet for Manny, the same people were mad that Manny said he had surgery. They do not even believe a renowned doctors .... but they believe Floyd's no name doctors.

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Floyd's toughest fight - excuse Floyd was ....

"Floyd had a torn rotator cuff."

[travestyny]

Your statement is not correct.

Roach said there was some initially but then Manny was doing it on his own. Maybe one may say he should have not just done it on his own but if you have done rehab yourself, you would know that most of it is done on your own.

Why do you believe a statement from Roach at 2:35 but not what he said 10 seconds later? That is unbelievable!

I didn't say I don't believe what he says 10 seconds later. I even said he is probably joking that he doesn't have Manny's phone number. But for him to go from rarely talking to Pac to calling the Phils for his REHABILITATION assistant? lol

I knew it was bull**** because from past interviews it's clear that Roach rarely talks to Pac when he is in the Phils. Then lo and behold, this video comes out and just confirms what I always knew. Look at the mound of evidence. Everything that you've brought up about this shoulder injury has be squashed, bro.

[travestyny]

That is the problem with Floyd. There never is any information!!! You cannot find the doctor for his surgery, no MRI, ..... same goes with the IV scandal. Do you have the doctor's name? NO! That is because the doctor's name was Dr Alex Ariza. My words? No! Floyd thanked Dr Alex Ariza!



Just like Floyd and his fans, years later, team Floyd was still using the injury as an excuse. Yet for Manny, the same people were mad that Manny said he had surgery. They do not even believe a renowned doctors .... but they believe Floyd's no name doctors.

1:00 mark

Floyd's toughest fight - excuse Floyd was ....

"Floyd had a torn rotator cuff."

He also apparently had surgery the beginning of this year:




Seems they both had shoulder issues. But bringing up Floyd doesn't help anything when we already have so much information about Pac. I'm sorry that you can't find the information you need to turn this in your favor. Floyd's team has always been pretty mum on issues, which is why lots of people thought he was afraid of Pac and didn't realize how much he tried to make the fight until later.

[ADP02]

He also apparently had surgery the beginning of this year:




Seems they both had shoulder issues. But bringing up Floyd doesn't help anything when we already have so much information about Pac. I'm sorry that you can't find the information you need to turn this in your favor. Floyd's team has always been pretty mum on issues, which is why lots of people thought he was afraid of Pac and didn't realize how much he tried to make the fight until later.

In the Castillo fight he indicated that it was the left shoulder. Even HBO commentated that it was the left shoulder. They were massaging it as well, remember? Now its the right shoulder? Which one is it?

Su****ious? All these conflicting statements?

[ADP02]

I didn't say I don't believe what he says 10 seconds later. I even said he is probably joking that he doesn't have Manny's phone number. But for him to go from rarely talking to Pac to calling the Phils for his REHABILITATION assistant? lol

I knew it was bull**** because from past interviews it's clear that Roach rarely talks to Pac when he is in the Phils. Then lo and behold, this video comes out and just confirms what I always knew. Look at the mound of evidence. Everything that you've brought up about this shoulder injury has be squashed, bro.

What's so unbelievable? I still do not get why you think that? Roach wanted to know how Manny was doing. That is different than just calling up Manny just to talk. There is purpose.

[travestyny]

In the Castillo fight he indicated that it was the left shoulder. Even HBO commentated that it was the left shoulder. They were massaging it as well, remember? Now its the right shoulder? Which one is it?

Su****ious? All these conflicting statements?

What's conflicting? He stated after the fight with Pac that both of his shoulders were messed up.

YOU should be su****ious of all of the conflicting statements from Pac and his team. lol