who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[travestyny]

Roach though said Manny was not serious (see below) when he said that comment and said he spoke to his doctor and Manny was doing rehab.

I saw an interesting video today. Just wanted to share it with you (don't get me wrong, I'm not starting this topic up again. Just wanted to point something out to you). Roach said he talked to the doctor that was doing rehab on Manny. I called bs and stated that it's unbelievable that Roach would call from the states to the Phils to find out about Manny's rehab. Check out this video that was posted to the forum today:

@2:35 -- Roach: "We don't talk on the phone. We don't even have each other's phone numbers. We only speak when we see each other."



Now, I'm going to guess (?) that he's joking when he said they don't have each other's phone number, but do you really think that Roach was able to get in touch with Manny, find out the doctor who was doing rehab from Manny, call the doctor and find out how rehab was going?

Please tell me you don't buy this story anymore.

[ADP02]

I saw an interesting video today. Just wanted to share it with you (don't get me wrong, I'm not starting this topic up again. Just wanted to point something out to you). Roach said he talked to the doctor that was doing rehab on Manny. I called bs and stated that it's unbelievable that Roach would call from the states to the Phils to find out about Manny's rehab. Check out this video that was posted to the forum today:

@2:35 -- Roach: "We don't talk on the phone. We don't even have each other's phone numbers. We only speak when we see each other."



Now, I'm going to guess (?) that he's joking when he said they don't have each other's phone number, but do you really think that Roach was able to get in touch with Manny, find out the doctor who was doing rehab from Manny, call the doctor and find out how rehab was going?

Please tell me you don't buy this story anymore.

You should have listened a few more seconds because he then says "We really do not have time to make phone calls that much"

[travestyny]

You should have listened a few more seconds because he then says "We really do not have time to make phone calls that much"

That's your response? Does it sound believable that he called the doctor who was doing rehab on Manny?

You would believe anything from this team, no matter how ridiculous. Carry on.

[ADP02]

Please tell me you don't buy this story anymore.

Do you buy the Floyd had a messed up torn rotator cuff and had surgery reason for Floyd's poor performance? Or what?

Castillo I was on April 20.
Castillo II happened on December 7
but
initially planned to come back on August 10 then
pushed back to October 5 then
pushed back to December 7

Reason for delays in the fight? It was Not because of Floyd's injury taking time to heal.

August 10! That's 3.5 months! Gives no time for rehab since Floyd would start training much sooner than that.

[travestyny]

Do you buy the Floyd had a messed up torn rotator cuff and had surgery reason for Floyd's poor performance? Or what?

Castillo I was on April 20.
Castillo II happened on December 7
but
initially planned to come back on August 10 then
pushed back to October 5 then
pushed back to December 7

Reason for delays in the fight? It was Not because of Floyd's injury taking time to heal.

August 10! That's 3.5 months! Gives no time for rehab since Floyd would start training much sooner than that.

Was it a full thickness rotator cuff injury? If it wasn't, says a lot that he visibly complained about it and had to make physical adjustments to deal with it, doesn't it?

[ADP02]

That's your response? Does it sound believable that he called the doctor who was doing rehab on Manny?

You would believe anything from this team, no matter how ridiculous. Carry on.

Why was it so ridiculous?

[travestyny]

Why was it so ridiculous?

Come onnnn. Put 1+1 together. He rarely calls Pac. You pointed out he doesn't have time to call him. Why do you think he would call Pac and then find out the phone number of the doctor who is doing his rehab, and then call the doctor? Nothing about that seems fishy to you?

Then again, I showed so many fishy situations from the beginning till the end of this shoulder saga. None of that seems fishy to you at all. That says enough, I suppose.

[ADP02]

Was it a full thickness rotator cuff injury? If it wasn't, says a lot that he visibly complained about it and had to make physical adjustments to deal with it, doesn't it?

3.5 months to August? subtract 8 - 10 weeks for training that leaves nothing! More su****ious would be that when this date was discussed, it was even before that. Was Floyd even injured? Why are you not su****ious?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Luis_Castillo

"After Mayweather's successful shoulder surgery, Castillo re-matched with Mayweather"


Mayweather, he had a chance to have a rematch at Staples Center with Castillo on August 10th but balked at it:

"The fighter rejected the idea for an Aug. 10 date at Staples, however, with Arum contending Mayweather didn’t trust the judges and didn’t want to fight in front of a strongly Latino crowd supporting Castillo."


“I asked Floyd if he trusted the judges in L.A. and he said, 'No.’ I asked him if he trusted the judges in San Francisco and he said, 'Yeah.' He doesn't even know L.A. and San Francisco are in the same state.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...320-story.html

[travestyny]

3.5 months to August? subtract 8 - 10 weeks for training that leaves nothing! More su****ious would be that when this date was discussed, it was even before that. Was Floyd even injured? Why are you not su****ious?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Luis_Castillo

"After Mayweather's successful shoulder surgery, Castillo re-matched with Mayweather"


Mayweather, he had a chance to have a rematch at Staples Center with Castillo on August 10th but balked at it:

"The fighter rejected the idea for an Aug. 10 date at Staples, however, with Arum contending Mayweather didn’t trust the judges and didn’t want to fight in front of a strongly Latino crowd supporting Castillo."


“I asked Floyd if he trusted the judges in L.A. and he said, 'No.’ I asked him if he trusted the judges in San Francisco and he said, 'Yeah.' He doesn't even know L.A. and San Francisco are in the same state.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...320-story.html

I'm not sure what you are trying to show here. We already have the doctor's timetable for Pac's return. We also have a bevy of medical documents that I've provided you with that talk about the protocol for recovery. What exactly are you trying to say?

[ADP02]

Come onnnn. Put 1+1 together. He rarely calls Pac. You pointed out he doesn't have time to call him. Why do you think he would call Pac and then find out the phone number of the doctor who is doing his rehab, and then call the doctor? Nothing about that seems fishy to you?

Then again, I showed so many fishy situations from the beginning till the end of this shoulder saga. None of that seems fishy to you at all. That says enough, I suppose.

The problem with what you are saying is you do not have the facts. Remember the word speculation?

I do not know which doctor nor do you but from what Roach said, he did. At one point Roach even commented that someone associated with Manny's doctor would fly from USA to help Manny with his rehab. Again, you do not have accurate information. You are trying to put 1 + 1 together but it may actually be 1+1+1-2+3